Hello, Winebers, my name is Jesse Meekam, and this is podcast number 364 for Wineb, where we teach

you four rules to help you stop up in paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save more money. Last week, make a note

here on a piece of paper, last week we talked about cash versus credit and how you are essentially paying for a

convenience when you're using a card and you really are paying for it. At the end of

the day you're you're a customer of Visa and MasterCard Discover Amex all that.

Just recognize it.

It's fine.

It's just, you're also a customer of your grocery store.

There's no, I'm not saying anything moral here,

I'm not trying to make a stand but just say oh yeah I'm a customer

Visa I'm a customer of Chase I'm a customer of Walmart I'm a customer of Amazon

yada yada okay that's just all it is it's fine don't don't worry about it now there is a place

and I think it would behoove you to stash a little cash just around and there's there's this pretty solid movement going around to go

cashless, completely cashless, and people really, they get into it. It's kind of

of like a bullet journaling or, you know,

Con Marie tidying up or, I don't know, any number of other things.

It's like, ooh, that looks nicely organized closet.

Look how those t-shirts are folded folded so they're all presenting themselves so

well and they feel so good the t-shirts themselves have this emotion that they feel so

good or look at that garage it's just so clean and tidy look you know look at that

whatever you know, look at that whatever, you know, that person had their, that journal,

and they have their stuff together.

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