Casey v. Kevin on US v. Google + Walter Isaacson on Two Years With Elon Musk

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🗓️ 15 September 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Is Google allowed to spend billions of dollars to make its search product the default browser? That is the question at the center of U.S. et al. v. Google — the most important tech trial of the modern internet era — and Kevin and Casey disagree on the answer. Then, a conversation with the journalist who spent the last two years shadowing Elon Musk.

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0:00.0	So, Casey, I want to start this week's show with an apology.
0:05.2	I love the sound of that.
0:06.9	So last week on the show, you said the word shot in Friday, but you pronounced it shade
0:12.1	in Freud, and I made fun of you, which was not nice because, you know, you don't speak
0:16.4	German, and maybe they didn't offer it at your high school.
0:18.9	And instead of mocking you for that, I realized belatedly that I should have been trying
0:23.1	to help you.
0:24.1	You truly could have been trying to help me.
0:25.9	So this week, I actually taught you German.
0:28.9	You taught me in German, because I don't remember that actually.
0:31.8	Well, I didn't do it in your presence.
0:33.6	I did it with the help of AI, but let's see the clip.
0:36.2	Oh, no.
0:38.1	I love children and I'm passive at the immobilian market, interested.
0:42.4	I love to be people who conflict with the needless people at work.
0:47.5	This is the place where I want to bring my social time.
0:50.5	It sounds like I just declared war on Australia.
0:55.4	So, Casey, you want to describe what you just saw?
0:57.3	I saw a fairly convincing video of myself sitting in my old home office talking into the
1:04.9	camera as a podcasting and appearing to speak German, a language that I don't know.
1:09.0	Well, you do now.
1:10.0	I do now, apparently, because there's this app.
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