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🗓️ 11 July 2025
⏱️ 46 minutes
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In this must-listen rebroadcast, Ralph Burns and Kasim Aslam break down a game-changing case study that reveals how combining Google’s deep data insights with Meta’s evolving ad algorithm can slash your cost per signed case to under $2,000 — a gold standard in personal injury law. Ralph and Kasim share how Tier 11’s refined Conversion Engine taps into Google’s 72 million (or more) data points to pinpoint high-intent leads at exactly the right moment. Even if you’re not in PI law, you’ll discover a tactical blueprint for blending paid search and social ads to secure more of your dream clients — while future-proofing your marketing against shifting ad platforms.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Perpetual Traffic Podcast. |
| 0:02.0 | This is your host, Ralph Burns, founder and CEO of Tier 11. |
| 0:06.1 | And today is a rebroadcast of a case study that we did a little over a year ago, |
| 0:14.1 | but a year and a half ago, right at sort of the end of Qasem Oslam's reign of terror here |
| 0:20.5 | at perpetual traffic. |
| 0:23.3 | And before our current co-host, Lauren E. Petrillo, she was just merely a guest at that |
| 0:27.8 | point in time. |
| 0:28.3 | So she will be absolutely thrilled that her spot is being taken by previous episode, Qasem. |
| 0:36.5 | But the point is, is I've had a lot of requests to rebroadcast this show, especially in light |
| 0:43.4 | of recent calls with clients as well as prospects who are in the PI law space, a personal |
| 0:50.0 | entry law space, and stating that this case study transformed their internal team and also |
| 0:58.5 | led to them really changing how they market and how they use Google and meta together |
| 1:05.0 | in order to get more signed cases. So if you're not in the PI law space, but you're marketing online, |
| 1:14.2 | this case study has a lot to do with you, even if you're not in the PI law space. It's an |
| 1:19.6 | area that we do particularly well, especially around paid advertising for larger entire states, |
| 1:26.0 | bigger municipalities, such as like large cities, typically. |
| 1:31.1 | But the keys to this case study are still true today, even though this case study is a year |
| 1:38.5 | and a half, two years old at this point in time. |
| 1:40.9 | So, in fact, just sort of checking in with a team who's actually running |
| 1:45.3 | the advertising for these guys, their cost per sign case fluctuates from anywhere from |
| 1:51.6 | 1,200 to about 2,000 as a blended new case, which is really good if you're in the personal |
| 1:59.1 | injury law space. If you're paying less than $1,500, thereabouts to have a signed new case, that means |
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