Hi, my name is Lewis Howes and welcome to the Daily Motivation Show.

I'm curious about maybe an artist or two that really surprised you. Maybe you had a conception about them based on their music,

based on what you'd seen in the press before you've interviewed them,

based on their persona and personal brand and kind of character type

that they portrayed to the masses.

Is there one or two that you can...

I did this group.

I always came from the corner of the room.

Like, I knew what music I liked, and I didn't really want to compromise on that. Right. So I knew it was a slower journey, and I knew that it wasn't going to be any shortcut to big numbers or big audiences. It was like, you know, if you want to be the first person to play the Hives on the radio, you know, you're not going to be... No one's going to kick your door down for a mainstream Saturday night NBC show.

You know what I mean?

It's like, oh, he's the Hives guy.

He's happy. the Hives on the radio, you know, you're not going to be, no one's going to kick your door down for a mainstream Saturday night NBC show, you know what I mean? It's like, no, he's the Hives guy.

He's happy in his corner, right? He's doing his thing. He's a new music person. And it worked really well for me and I had an amazing time. I realized like, if I'm going to listen more and I'm going to change the way that I approach these conversations. I need to find people who are doing

things I don't really know about.

I don't really know what drives the pop mentality. I don't really know who Justin Bieber is. I don't really know what kind of life Selena Gomez has actually lived.

And so when I started having those conversations became clear to me and very surprising that with a bit of listening and some genuine

curiosity and probably a bit of naivety as to what going to goes into the pop world, we unlocked

these kind of stories and these conversations that really surprised me how transparent modern pop artists

have become. Really? Yeah.

Because in my time, when I was coming up to the 20s and 30s or whatever trying to find my voice, pop was just so, hi, where are the backstreet boys, right? It's like, hey, what's been the hardest thing on tour? I don't know, man. Kevin ate my hot dog last night. That was pretty tough going, you know, MTV News, you know? Yeah, yeah.

That was like the headlines, but you knew there was stuff going on. You knew that people didn't like each other. You knew there was drama, people were getting ripped off. I mean, pop music has been one of the most exploited things, right, from an artistic point of view. It's very exploited. I mean, music, any artist is, you know, hip-hop, country music, does music, whatever. The artists have a tough time. So you knew that didn't stop at pop. You knew it was drama and pop, but you can never get to it. It's like it was always just like, and cut. We're good here, you know. Fott and light and... Yeah, sell the records, sell the record, sell the dream. And what was really interesting to me was when I started having conversations with these artists,

just how honest and inspiring in conversation they were.

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