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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.,

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to Words Matter.

I am David Rothkopf, and I am joined this week as every week for little political therapy

with Dr. Norm Ornstein practicing political therapists.

How are you doing today, Norm?

Well, I'll try and fulfill my goal as a therapist of making you feel even worse by the time we're done, knowing you're not starting from my husband.

You always do, what you always do, Norm.

You know, well, first of all, let me ask a question before we get into the heavy stuff.

Last week, we were unable to do the show because you

were finishing up debate camp where you work with a bunch of kids and help prepare them.

How's our future looking based on debate camp?

I will say, David, that it is the one salve on my tortured soul right now, given everything else that's happening,

we started this camp for public school kids in the D.C. area, almost all Title I, meaning

basically these are schools that were at least half the kids qualify for

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