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Carrie Thomas, Account Director: Datos Insights: Should I stay or should I go now? A personal perspective of flood risk in Florida (405)

InsTech - insurance & innovation with Matthew Grant & Robin Merttens

InsTech

Entrepreneurship, Business, Investing

4.951 Ratings

🗓️ 3 May 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Matthew Grant is joined by Carrie Thomas, Account Director at Datos Insights, for a deeply personal look at what happens when insurance risk becomes a lived reality.  Having spent years working closely with insurers, Carrie brings a rare dual perspective, both as an industry insider and as a homeowner navigating one of the most challenging insurance markets in the world. After relocating from the Carolinas to Florida, she found herself caught in a system where cover is not only harder to access, but increasingly difficult to justify.  The conversation centres on her experience trying to secure homeowners and flood insurance in a state where carriers are withdrawing, pricing is volatile and eligibility rules create unexpected gaps. Despite not being in a designated flood zone, Carrie faced rising premiums, limited options and ultimately the decision to go without flood cover altogether.  Set against the backdrop of Hurricanes Helene and Milton, she shares what it is like to experience storm risk first-hand, from uncertainty around evacuation to the aftermath of storm surge and its impact on communities.   At the heart of the episode is a difficult but important question: when the cost of protection continues to rise, how do individuals, insurers and governments respond?  In this conversation, Carrie shares:  Why insurers are pulling back from markets like Florida and what that means for customers  How flood risk, eligibility and pricing can create unexpected protection gaps  What it feels like to navigate insurance decisions during active hurricane seasons  The trade-offs between state-backed cover and private market alternatives  Why insurance costs are becoming a key driver in relocation decisions  How catastrophe events are reshaping perceptions of risk at a household level  Why improved data does not automatically lead to more affordable insurance  How initiatives like Elevate Florida are attempting to adapt to increasing flood exposure  What insurers are focusing on as they balance claims pressure with long-term sustainability  Carrie’s recommendations:  Podcast: The Rest is History  Book: Millennium by Tom Holland  If you like what you’re hearing, please leave us a review on whichever platform you use or contact Matthew Grant on LinkedIn.

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0:00.0

Nobody was sure where it was going to hit, and nobody was sure our local meteorologist, his guidance

0:06.2

every year is that you run from the water and you hide from the wind.

0:19.1

Hello, welcome or welcome back to the Insect podcast.

0:22.6

This week, Matthew Grant is joined by Carrie Thomas from Datos Insights.

0:27.6

This episode takes a slightly different angle, a first-hand look at what happens when the realities of climate risk meet the insurance market.

0:34.6

After moving to Florida, Carrie found herself navigating a system where

0:38.3

insurers are pulling back, prices are rising fast, and even getting basic cover isn't straightforward.

0:44.0

It's a personal story, but one that reflects much bigger questions facing the industry.

0:52.8

Carrie, great to have you joining us. You come from the UK, but you actually've been living in the US for a while.

0:58.5

Yes, I was border-raised in South East London, and I've been in the US for almost 20 years now.

1:04.9

Started in D.C., moved down the East Coast, and now I'm in Florida.

1:10.2

Which is why we're here.

1:11.0

So we were talking because you are one of my new colleagues in your Datov's role.

1:15.9

And you mentioned the challenges you'd had to get insurance in your new property.

1:19.9

We thought what a great way to get a firsthand account of somebody who actually is on the ground trying to buy

1:25.9

insurance.

1:27.0

So of course we're going to talk a little bit about your put on insurance. So of course, we're going

1:27.8

to talk a little bit about your day job, but most of all, just really fascinated to learn the trials

1:33.2

and tribulations of getting insurance in the US. Absolutely. Yeah, it's been an adventure.

1:38.8

You mentioned you've been around the US, a few states. You were in North Carolina for a decade,

1:43.1

and then you recently moved to Florida.

1:46.1

When you'd move to house, you want to get home insurance. What happened next? We'd lived in

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