Hello, welcome to Ona Ross and Carrie, the show where we don't just report on French

science, spirituality, claims into the paranormal.

No way, we take part ourselves.

Yep, when they make the claims we show up, so you don't have to.

I'm Ross Blascher.

And I'm Carrie Poppy.

And last week you got to hear Ross interview Susan Gerbick with special guest star,

Market Word from a couch.

That's right.

And this week you get to hear me interview Michael Marshall.

Oh, this is exciting.

I'm going to hear it right before you do.

Marsh is both brilliant, genuinely brilliant, and has a British accent.

Oh, so he sounds brilliant.

Yes, yeah, it's a real one-two punch.

But the reason that I wanted to talk to him is because he had just done this really

cool investigation of what's called the White Rose movement in the UK, which is an

anti-vax movement that does have some legs over here and Marshall get into that, but has

a little more of a presence in the UK.

And I was going to ask who is Michael Marsh and why should I listen to him?

But you already answered the last part.

So who's Michael Marsh?

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