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The Fall Line: True Crime

Carolyn DeFord, Part 2: The Disappearance of Leona LeClair Kinsey

The Fall Line: True Crime

The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

True Crime, News

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week, in honor of National Native American Heritage Day, we are re-releasing one of our most popular series: our three-part interview with Carolyn DeFord.

Leona Kinsey disappeared on October 25, 1999; her daughter Carolyn has both searched for answers in her mother's cold case—and has pondered what she'll do if she finds what she seeks. Now an adult and an activist for MMIGW, and all missing and murdered Indigenous people through her Facebook group Missing and Murdered Native Americans, Carolyn continues the story of her young adulthood, and recounts the experience of hearing of her mother's disappearance from a state away.


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Listen To The Vanished's coverage of Leona's Case: 

https://art19.com/shows/the-vanished-podcast-wondery/episodes/76152ac4-587f-488f-b852-7f33e71cdab3

 

Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters and Kim Fritz/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd

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Written, researched, and hosted by Laurah Norton, with research assistance from Bryan Worters, Kyana Burgess, and Michaela Morrill/Interviews by Brooke Hargrove/Produced, scored, and engineered by Maura Currie/Content advisors are Brandy C. Williams, Liv Fallon, and Vic Kennedy/ Theme music by RJR/Special thanks to Angie Dodd, Liz Lipka, and Sarah Turney 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This holiday week on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday,

0:03.7

the fall line is re-releasing one of our most powerful series

0:07.6

and one we get the most feedback on from our listeners.

0:10.8

Our three episode coverage of Carolyn

0:13.2

Ford's work on the crisis of missing and murdered indigenous women,

0:17.4

girls and relatives in the United States and Canada and the story of her own

0:22.1

mother who was counted among them.

0:24.7

Carolyn's mother, Leona Kinsey, disappeared in 1999 in La Grande, Oregon.

0:30.1

Carolyn's search for her mother has continued even as she's worked to help countless other families,

0:35.7

both in her official role in the Puyallup tribe, through her advocacy group,

0:40.0

missing and murdered Native Americans, and via supporting legislation at the state and federal levels.

0:47.0

Trust us, you won't want to miss Carolyn's story or Lionas.

0:51.6

These are really powerful episodes. This is the fall line.

1:07.0

The fall line. This week we continue the story of Leona Leclare Kinsie and Carolyn de Ford, a missing mother and a daughter who was

1:26.8

grown up to become an advocate for the missing and murdered, both online, through her Facebook group,

1:33.0

and through her legislative work for missing and murdered

1:36.0

indigenous women and girls.

1:38.0

When we left off last time, Carolyn's story had carried us through her childhood and into the complex relationship she and Leona had in her adolescence

1:47.2

They were incredibly close and there was so much she admired about her mother, her talent, her independence, her strength, her eye for artistic

1:56.0

design, and her humor.

1:58.4

But her mother's struggles with addiction had been a strain too, Carolyn sometimes offended for herself when

2:03.9

Leona was in jail. She blamed her mother for the breakup of Leona's marriage

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