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This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types about what they do,

how they got to be who they are and what they're

thinking about. On this podcast, Debbie Millen talks with writer Caroline Paul about her

death-defined adventures and how girls must learn the difference between fear and exhilaration.

When you face a situation, you can choose.

Do you want to listen overwhelming you to your fear or do you want to try to access your bravery?

Here's Debbie Millman.

If there is a superhero of girl power,

you need look no further than Caroline Paul.

She's fought fires,

weathered blizzards on high peaks, and piloted experimental planes.

She is a daredevil adventurer at heart and a strong believer that girls can and should do it all.

When Caroline Paul is not off scaling cliffs and soaring the skies, she can be found writing.

Her latest book, The Gutsy Girl, Escapades for

your life of epic adventure, is a rallying cry for girl power. It's part memoir,

part outdoor guide. Today I'm going to talk to her about her adventures and her daring

and fascinating life. Caroline Paul, welcome back to Design Matters.

Thank you, Debbie.

That was a very nice introduction.

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