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This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are and what they're

thinking about.

On this podcast, Debbie Milman talks with Amanda Palmer about her wild and wandering path to the rock

stage and about how behind her artistic ambitions is the drive to feel real.

What I really wanted was to feel like I was doing something that contributed and mattered that I was in a true conversation with the world and with other people.

Here's Debbie Milman.

Everyone knows that the business model for musicians isn't what it used to be. In this internet age you can't just

make a recording and expect all of your fans to pay for it when it's so easy for them

to stream it or download it for free.

But you can ask them to help out.

This has been Amanda Palmer's approach.

The Alt Rock singer-songwriter asked her fans to support her

in making an album,

which became the world's most successful music

Kickstarter.

She writes about the new rules of exchange

for artists and their audiences

in her book, The Art of Asking how I Learn to Stop Worrying

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