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The Emma Guns Show

Caroline Goyder | The career-ending risk that paid off.

The Emma Guns Show

Emma Gunavardhana

Inspiration, Feel-good, Society & Culture, Health, Inspiring, Life Lessons, Empowering, Health & Fitness, Fun, Honest Conversations, Arts, Mental Health, Self Improvement, Deep And Meaningful

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2023

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Summary

It’s always a pleasure to welcome guests back onto the podcast and Caroline Goyder is no exception. She first appeared on the show in 2019 to share her expertise on how to speak with confidence in public but she shared so much more.

I was surprised to learn her biggest risk was giving a TEDx Talk on speaking confidently, given that was how I had discovered her. But, as she explains, it was a huge risk because if it didn’t go well, it could be a career-ending move.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

I mean, this is probably a deep therapy thing, let it out.

0:08.2

People find public speaking worse than death, so they say,

0:11.2

and my job is helping people to speak in public.

0:13.4

Giving the TEDx talk is a hugely popular talk.

0:18.0

If you told me that I would go into it

0:19.6

and all those people would watch it,

0:20.7

I think I would probably have run away.

0:23.0

Funny, for the first book, I interviewed a list actress.

0:25.9

It was Kate Windsor, it was Helen Merrin,

0:27.9

it was Sarah Jessica Park, for all of those people.

0:30.1

Collectively, they were blinding me, very dust.

0:33.2

But as individuals, they were just humans.

0:36.0

When someone criticises you,

0:37.6

extract what you need from your criticism,

0:40.8

then let the rest of it go.

0:42.0

The harder I tried to be good, the worse it got.

0:46.5

I think theses have probably taught me that.

0:48.6

Those moments are the moments that really elevates us in life,

0:51.6

and if we don't embrace them, then life is really small.

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