Hi, this is Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to this week's episode of the Bof podcast.

Some of you will know that Voices is our annual gathering, bringing together some of the most fascinating people on the planet.

This week, we're going back to Voices 2019, where I sat down with Carol Cadwallader to talk about the end of democracy.

Now, Carol is an investigative journalist for The Guardian and the Observer, and she worked for over a year with Christopher Wiley to publish her investigation into Cambridge Analytica,

which demonstrated how culture, information, and algorithms have been used by militaries,

governments, and companies to undermine elections around the world, including an unprecedented

attack on the U.S. democratic process during the 2016 presidential election.

More recently, Carol has been focused on Russian interference during the Brexit referendum in 2016, and she gave

an explosive talk which opened the TED conference in Vancouver earlier this year. I sat down with

Carol to pick up the conversation from where she left off at TED. Here's Carol Cadwallader at

Voices 2019 on the end of democracy.

I wanted to pick up at the end of that TED talk,

you give a call to action.

And you're sitting at TED, which is one of these places

where the titans of Silicon Valley gather,

and you called them all out and said, you know,

what are you going to do? What happened after the talk?

Did anything happen?

Well, it was quite amazing because Chris Anderson, who's the head of TED,

he came up on stage and he said, Mark, Cheryl, we know you're watching.

Come and tell us. Come to the TED and respond to this.

And I stepped off stage and literally within about two minutes.

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