Hey all you cool cats and kittens! In this episode, Rob interviews none other than Netflix Show Tiger Kings Carole Baskin! Rob and Carole explore many different topics including the world of animal conservation, how she coped with the fame that came along with the Netflix show, her thoughts on Louis Theroux. Carole also responds to the many myths and lies surrounding her life including her money and her husband’s disappearance. KEY TAKEAWAYS  The fame the Netflix show brought to Carole was incredibly difficult to begin with. The first three months after the release she was harassed horrifically including threatening phone calls and even death threats. Despite this Carole believes that some good has come from it, the spotlight has been put on animal abuse and has allowed her to discuss the real issues around tiger and big cat conservation. Carole believes the producers of Tiger King did a great disservice to the big cat rescue community in the US. They didn’t truly represent the differences between actual big cat sanctuaries and those who were animal abusers. The timing of the Netflix show was imperative to its success. Carole is arguably the last person to blame for the covid pandemic yet the internet and viral memes that were created around the show were so focused on blaming her for it, as well as a whole host of other things! Something she finds amusing and bewildering now but it did affect her at the time, particularly around carrying out her conservation work. Human activities have caused the damage to the world we are seeing. Carole believes we need to stop polluting, stop eating animals and really think about the planet we are leaving behind for our children and grandchildren. The US’s culture of rebellion and personal independence means that the Big Cat industry is still thriving. To the outside world is seems like a crazy industry but many US citizens feel like they have the right to own any animals in the same way they have a right to bear arms. It’s a cultural shift that takes time and a lot of legislation to change. If Carole had her time again she doesn’t think she would change her mission. However, she found the impact the fame and negativity around the show was too much for her family to deal with, especially her daughter and husband. Animal abuse is to do with power. People who abuse animals do so to feel and show that they have power. If Carole had just 15 minutes to speak to Joe Exotic, she would just want to ask him why. Why does he want to put these animals in cages, why is he for private ownership of cubs and cats if he loves the animals as he says he does? BEST MOMENTS   “The first three months were hell, it was just amazing to me that people would watch a show about a ton of animal abusers and then believe the lies that were being told [by them]” “The Animal abusers, they can’t talk about the issues so they can only thing they can do is say hateful things” “It could have been so much more but instead was just wildly entertaining to people locked in their homes” “There shouldn’t have to be a place like Big Cat Rescue rescuing big cats from horrible situations. We should do away with those horrible situations upfront and put an end to it” “I like Disruptors because Disruptors are going to change the world” [Business, mindset, entrepreneur, disruptors] VALUABLE RESOURCES https://robmoore.com/ bit.ly/Robsupporter   https://robmoore.com/podbooks  rob.team ABOUT THE HOST Rob Moore is an author of 9 business books, 5 UK bestsellers, holds 3 world records for public speaking, entrepreneur, property investor, and property educator. Author of the global bestseller “Life Leverage” Host of UK’s No.1 business podcast “Disruptors” “If you don't risk anything, you risk everything” CONTACT METHOD Rob’s official website: https://robmoore.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/robmooreprogressive/?ref=br_rs LinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/robmoore1979 disruptive, disruptors, entreprenuer, business, social media, marketing, money, growth, scale, scale up, risk, property: http://www.robmoore.com