Carnivore Diet Myths Debunked, Hard Questions About Meat Vs. Plants, Are Broccoli Sprouts Really Bad For You & Much More With Dr. Paul Saladino.

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🗓️ 6 August 2020

⏱️ 133 minutes

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I recently got my hands on Dr. Paul Saladino's new book "The Carnivore Code".

Now, if you don't know who Paul is, then you must listen to my previous episodes with him, including:

Since I've interviewed Paul, he has published this new book, and after reading it, I had plenty of tough questions for him, including:

-How do we *know* the reason our stomachs became 1000x more acidic than a chimp is because of animal food consumption?

-Is the decline in height and health fully attributable to plant/agriculture, or could it be due to industrialization, crowded cities, etc?

-Why do you say present hunter gatherers no longer have access to large game?

-You say herbivores can detoxify plant toxins, but we can't. How do they do it?

-All the isothiocyanate studies are in vivo for human cells. How positive are you the results are replicated in vitro?

-You say hypothyroidism/crucifer intake is *reported* in Western culture. What's that mean, exactly? Anecdotes?

-When you list the "Bad News Gang", like cigarettes, alcohol, etc. couldn't you just as easily lump exercise, cold, heat, sunlight, etc. in with factors that turn on NRF2? If so, how do you personally describe your differentiation between good vs. bad NRF2 activators?

-The studies showing value for elimination of fruit/vegetable consumption are pretty short (10-12 weeks). Any longer term studies? And did these studies factor in how the produce was being prepared (e.g. presence of oils, organic vs. inorganic, etc.)?

-When you say high intake of isoflavones causes endocrine disruption, how much is high? Same thing with Chaga for liver cancer (pg 81). Isn't that a shit-ton of chaga?

-If polyphenols reduce intestinal enzyme production, couldn't other plant compounds, such as bitters/herbs/spices, along with adequate chewing, combat that by increasing enzyme production?

-You say resveratrol has repeatedly shown lack of value in human studies, but what about Sinclair's research? Hasn't he shown the opposite?

-I found it fascinating the claim that plant-based eaters still "crave" or are attracted to meat, but how is an ERP measured exactly?

-You say that carbohydrates that accompany plant fiber can spike insulin. That's painting with a pretty broad brush, isn't it? I think the lion's share of plants don't result in an appreciable insulin spike, do they?

-You say meat is not associated with cancer, but what about if active tumor growth already exists? Would you change anything if you had cancer?

-The study on telomere length being increased only by red meat was an observational study on 28 people. Any other studies looking directly at telomere or Horvath clock responses to plant vs. animal intake that are larger, more robust or non-observational?

-You say that fruits are seeds coated in natural candy, but can't we eat the fruit flesh and "leave the seeds behind?"

-What do you say about all the studies showing reduced risk of liver cancer, diabetes, etc. amongst regular coffee drinkers?

-You say unrendered fat is your preference. Any studies on rendered vs. unrendered fat health, nutrient quality, etc?

-You say oleosins from coconut/olive oil may cause a strong allergic reaction. How conclusive is that?

Whew! You'd think after all these questions, Paul would let me know I'm being a total pain in the butt, but instead, he graciously offered to do a solosode answering all these questions and highlighting many other up-to-date details on the carnivore diet.

In Paul's solosode, you'll discover:

-An overview of the carnivore diet...6:45

-"Rabbit starvation" and the ideal ratio of protein to fat to shoot for...15:40

-How plants and agriculture have contributed to the decline in human height and health...27:45

-Why present hunter gatherers no longer have access to large game...35:45

-How our stomachs became 1000x more acidic than that of a chimp because of animal food consumption...39:45

-Why herbivores can detoxify plant toxins, but humans cannot...51:45

-Studies on the effects of isothiocyanates in humans...1:01:55

-The difference between environmental and molecular hormesis...1:06:53

-A high intake of isoflavones causes endocrine disruption, how much is "high"? Same thing with Chaga for liver cancer...1:22:40

-Why Resveratrol has limited value for humans...1:29:45

-How to measure Event Related Potentials (ERP)...1:37:00

-Whether plants do or do not spike insulin levels...1:40:20

-What changes in the diet to make if you have cancer...1:53:25

-The correlation between meat intake and telomere lengths...1:57:48

-Lightning round questions...2:05:10

-And much more!

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0:00.0	On this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast.
0:04.6	There's not a question of whether plants have toxins.
0:07.5	The question is whether any individual can adequately detoxify those.
0:11.4	Herein lies sort of the thermodynamic conundrum for humans if we try and do this,
0:15.9	and herein lies the major toxicities which result in hyper-ammonemia.
0:20.9	Carbohydrates are not the cause of insulin resistance.
0:23.5	It is the underlying excess of omega-6 fatty acids,
0:26.8	which are an evolutionary inconsistency.
0:28.8	In today's diet, we should have really only had those at 2-3% of our diet.
0:33.1	Health, performance, nutrition, longevity, ancestral living, biohacking, and much more.
0:43.6	My name is Ben Greenfield. Welcome to the show.
0:52.7	Well, this podcast will be very interesting for you because every so often,
0:55.9	I will host guest for what I call a solo-sode in which that guest comes on and digs into a ton of topics
1:03.6	that are based on answers to questions that I have asked that guest,
1:07.9	that you have asked that guest in comments on other podcast episodes that they've been on.
1:14.7	My guest, solo-sode expert today, has been on the show before.
1:19.5	He is a fascinating individual, a little bit polarizing in a way based on his opinion
1:25.4	on the way that we should be eating. His name is Dr. Paul Saladino.
1:30.3	Paul was on a previous Ben Greenfield fitness show.
1:34.4	Actually, he's been on a couple of times.
1:36.0	I'm going to link to all of the previous shows that I've had with Paul in the show notes,
1:42.0	which you can find at BenGreenfieldFitness.com slash carnivore code book.
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