Without a doubt, the big question that I've gotten in the last two weeks or so since the news broke was not about Royal Caribbean, not directly anyway, but about Carnival Cruise Line and the big change they made to their loyalty program.

And I thought on this week's episode, we really need to dive into this.

Really needed to talk about this because it's not only interesting, I think, from a

Royal Herbing fan standpoint, there's a little bit of when you, what's it called on the

highway when you watch a crash?

That's called watching a crash.

No.

Rubbernecking.

There's rubbernecking component to this.

And I thought that that's one aspect

of it. But of course, many of us are also doing the neighborly thing, peeking over the fence and seeing,

you know, what's going to happen. How's like going to affect my property? And anyway,

join me on this episode. It's a very good friend of mine. Becky Manka from MEI travel. Becky,

welcome to the podcast. Thanks. It's great to be here. This. Becky Manga from MEI Travel. Becky, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks.

It's great to be here.

This always happens on the group cruises.

So it's nice to actually sit down and talk about this interesting topic.

Yeah, so we're recording this episode on Independence of the Seas.

This is one of our Royal Caribbean blog group cruise.

We have two a year.

Next one's on October, October 5th on a wasas of the sea so

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