When we started meals, it was like, I think the operative word, like what's our verb?

It's to confuse food and fashion, but I think there's a confrontational quality to that.

I don't know.

I think the fashion world has co-opted language from the food world, so you hear the expression,

fast fashion, which is like a cognate of fast food in a way, right?

You know, and disposability.

Let me know. Hi, welcome back. Today is a conversation with my friend Sam Salad. Sam is not only hilarious, as you'll hear really soon, but he's also so humble and incredibly original and creative and stylish and truly one of the best writers and specifically copywriters that I've ever encountered in my life.

Sam with his partner, Rebma, are the designers and founders behind the LA-based clothing line meals.

Sam is really fun to talk to and listen to.

We recorded this about a month or so ago from my kitchen table. He came over with a bottle of rum and we ate fruit and snacks. And we

sat there for a couple of hours and honestly we could have kept going. And I hope that we do.

I hope he comes back.

I hope we get to collaborate more.

Thank you so much for being here and listening.

If this is your first time, great.

I love this episode.

And I hope you do too.

Enjoy my conversation with Sam Salad.

I was telling you this before we officially started recording, but I've been excited for this for months.

I've known you for like at least a year.

And it was so cool getting to spend time with you today preparing for this and read more about meals and you and your work and you really inspire me.

And I'm truly at the very earnest and so happy you're here in doing this.

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