All right, welcome back or welcome to the Finding Mastery Podcast. I'm Michael Jervay.

And the idea behind these conversations

is to sit down with people who are on the path of mastery.

Either they have a deep understanding

of what mastery means. They've been on the path for a long time,

or they're early on the path and they're pursuing it.

And so there's different points of view that I'm interested in trying to capture and understand. And so before we get going, I want to

begin with a question or maybe just an exercise in imagination. And if you could

imagine what it would be like if there was a global award for the thing that you're most passionate about, whether that's parenting or being a spouse or giving a foundation or law or marketing or coaching or whatever it is that

you're into.

What if there was an award, a global award where you could be recognized or somebody is going to be

recognized to be the number one best in the world. So the first order of

business just to play with is would you put your name in the hat? Would you submit to being

critiqued or judged or part of that competition? And if you just pause in that for a minute, that will teach you something about you just answering that question.

And if there's no hesitation, that tells you something, but if there's a little bit of hesitation about it you're

probably hesitating because to struggle with this idea of what would it be like

if you really chipped in and went for it and you didn't have what it took at some part on the journey the committee whoever that

committee might be they said you're not good enough and you can no longer play or

compete or be part of this process.

And then the third thing to entertain, if you will, is

why would you do it?

Why would you throw your name in the hat?

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