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The Allender Center Podcast

Caring for Leaders in Erotic Entanglement, Part One

The Allender Center Podcast

The Allender Center

Psychology, Religion & Spirituality, Mental Health, Christianity, Trauma, Health & Fitness, Theology

4.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2019

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Dan Allender and Rachael Clinton talk about recognizing erotic entanglement as leaders, and the very human desires that help fuel it.

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0:00.0

The Lorde, We are in a series on leadership and what it means for you to be cared for well as a leader,

0:44.4

and certainly what it means for you to care for the leaders who are part of your life.

0:49.2

And I had the privilege of working with Abby Wong Hector for the first two.

0:55.0

And Abby was unable to join us, but we were planning as well to include you, Rachel Clinton.

1:01.0

So thank you for joining me on the next two, which happened to be on sexual entanglements.

1:08.0

Or another word for that, and we'll try to define our terms, erotic transference and entanglements, or another word for that, and we'll try to define our terms.

1:11.7

Erotic transference and entanglement.

1:14.3

So let's just put it very bluntly.

1:16.5

We're not primarily talking about the fact that a lot of leaders struggle with pornography.

1:22.5

The research would indicate probably 68% of our pastors and leaders, spiritual leaders,

1:29.2

struggle with weekly engagements with pornography around 68%.

1:35.2

We're not really talking about people who are involved in affairs.

1:39.6

Those are heartbreaking moments, people who are bound into some addictive process.

1:44.6

And we've had Jay Stringer and others address some of those issues.

1:48.9

So certainly not saying it's not real and not important.

1:51.7

But that's not our primary focus, nor are we talking about, you know, people who are in the middle of warfare addressing in many ways the bombardment of sexuality

2:04.2

in a culture already sexually mad, but now so many other temptations that arise.

2:11.9

What we're really talking about is if you're a leader, people are using you sexually.

2:16.9

And I know that sounds staggeringly overstated.

2:21.8

When I say using you, I don't even mean that they're fantasizing, masturbating, having

2:28.1

sexual dreams, et cetera.

2:30.3

Some might be.

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