Care and Feeding | Slate's parenting show - The Waves: Are “Cool Moms” A Menace?
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🗓️ 4 March 2023
⏱️ 35 minutes
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Summary
On this bonus episode from our friends at The Waves, Slate senior editor Rebecca Onion is joined by NPR political reporter Danielle Kurtzleben to unpack all the fears that come with pending motherhood. They unpack Danielle’s brilliant Substack piece, “A Professional Lady Correspondent Stares Down Motherhood,” their fears of “cool moms” and…the possible merits of ”lean in feminism.” Heavy emphasis on the possible.
In Slate Plus, how Danielle navigated covering abortion post-Roe while pregnant.
Podcast production by Cheyna Roth and Tori Dominguez with editorial oversight by Daisy Rosario and Alicia Montgomery.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, Mom and Dad are Fighting listeners. |
| 0:02.0 | We wanted to bring you a special bonus episode this weekend from The Waves, Slate's podcast on gender and feminism. |
| 0:08.0 | NPR political reporter Danielle Kurtzleben joined Slate's Rebecca Onion to unpack all the fears that come with pending motherhood. |
| 0:16.0 | It's an interesting listen even for those of us who've already started down the parenthood path. |
| 0:21.3 | I'm going to hand it over to Rebecca Onion and I'll see you back here on Monday. |
| 0:47.4 | Welcome to the Waves, Slate's podcast about gender, feminism, and fretting over impending matressants. |
| 0:52.4 | Every episode, you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds. |
| 0:55.1 | Today, you've got me, Rebecca Onion, a senior editor at Slate. So my daughter just had her sixth birthday. And I was thinking about how before I became a |
| 1:02.4 | mother, I thought about it for about five years before going ahead and deciding to do it. |
| 1:07.4 | And so in the course of that, I had a lot of conversations about it with friends who were |
| 1:11.0 | parents, friends who weren't. I made a lot of Google documents. I wrote about my fears of |
| 1:16.8 | division of, around division of labor for slate.com and other places. I made pro and con lists. |
| 1:22.6 | I tried to talk to my husband about many, many possibilities, which he was mystified by, frankly. |
| 1:27.5 | One time I remember I was talking to a friend who was turned out. talk to my husband about many, many possibilities, which he was mystified by, frankly. |
| 1:32.5 | One time I remember I was talking to a friend who was turned out to be the first one in our friend group to have kids. A totally lovely woman, a great mom whose son also kept me up |
| 1:38.3 | all night at one tightly packed house party, super overstimulated, crying about wanting iPad at light two in the morning. |
| 1:46.5 | He is now a preteen and he's absolutely wonderful. |
| 1:49.5 | Anyway, I ranted to this friend about all the things that I love doing that I worried becoming |
| 1:53.1 | a mom would take away from me. |
| 1:54.9 | At that time, those things were like rock climbing, a lot of yoga, reading, watching very bloody TV that was not child-friendly in any way, |
| 2:03.8 | shape, or form. And my sweet friend looked at me after I made this rant with her sweet eyes and |
| 2:10.6 | said, you may lose all those things, but what about all the things you'll gain? I remember at the time |
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