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So, 20 years ago, you were making your debut in a rugby World Cup

Wormat match, Nicki Robinson, and today, or shortly you're going to be watching the son of a guy you were playing

with making his debut. Does that make you feel just a little bit old?

Does a bit and I was thinking who could that be but of course it was

Garthwellyn and his son Max's but yeah that does make me feel a bit old 20 years

Thank you for that I did wonder if Max is the first son of a teammate that's played for Wales.

I can't think of anyone else.

So unless any of our listeners can correct me,

this might be the first time, is it?

Yeah, it might be, yeah.

Yeah, thank you.

How old were you when I was

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