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Hey, this is Craig, and welcome to a very special edition of the full 60.

Pierre and I, Pierre LeBron and I are sitting in sunny Boko-Riton, Florida,

with the NHL GM's meetings just wrapped up.

This is going to be a two-parter.

Second half of this podcast is featuring Washington Capital General Manager Brian McClellan,

who is great.

And it was fun to talk to Brian.

You like, Brian's awesome.

He's awesome.

But we also wanted to get into a little bit of what went on in these meetings and have Pierre

talk a little bit about his highlights.

And also, I want to plug the conversation we had on Pierre and Scott Burnside's podcast,

Two Man Advantage with Mark Bursman.

I thought Mark Bursman was really interesting in that.

Yeah, and he's certainly, he's done the media rounds here over the past week,

and I think it was smarter the Montreal Canadiens to, you know, probably game plan that way with the kind of pressure that he's been on under this year. They're going to miss the playoffs for a third straight year. And I think, you know, it's important for that franchise, you know, to explain where they're going moving forward. And I think Mark Bergerman did a pretty good job of that in our interview, but also with the other meetoutlets here this week. Yeah, so check that out. And to me,

the most interesting thing, there is such a, I think maybe more than any GM, a gap between the public persona of a GM and the private. And he was good. He's like, look, you know, he's a funny guy and he's cracked jokes he's known for like as a player as a practical joker and you can't do

that like you can't be caught doing messing around when you're the GM of a high profile team like

that and he's cracked jokes. He's known for like as a player, as a practical joker. And you can't do that.

Like you can't be caught doing messing around when you're the GM of a high profile team like that. Yeah. And it's it's funny because I think one day when he's no longer the GM of the Habs and who knows when that will be, I definitely believe that he'll be back for another year. But whenever he does move on, eventually, every gym moves on. It'll be interesting to see if we see the old Mark Bergeman back again.

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