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Cap and Charade?

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🗓️ 26 April 2010

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Cap and Charade? Michael Shellenberger, Breakthrough Institute Kristin Eberhard, Legal Director, Western Energy and Climate, Natural Resources Defense Council Larry Goulder, Chair, Department of Economics, Stanford Would capping and trading carbon pollution create a prosperous clean energy economy? Or would it be a boondoggle for Wall Street and scammers in developing countries? While touted as a market-based way to put a price on carbon, cap and trade has been parodied by Jon Stewart as the superhero Cap N’ Trade and is increasingly questioned by environmentalists and regulators. Yet the state of California and many companies have a lot invested in a cap-and-trade system. Will it die a slow death? Should it? What would be a better way to create a global price for greenhouse gases? This program was recorded in front of a live audience at the Commonwealth Club of California on April 22, 2010. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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How will we power our future? Can we create a healthy and clean economy? Climate One at the

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Commonwealth Club is at the forefront of the global debate about energy, economy, and the environment.

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With thoughtful and insightful discussions on policy, business, science, and culture, Climate One founder Greg Dalton gets to the heart of the matter.

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It's our future. It's time to come together.

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Welcome to Climate One at the Commonwealth Club. I'm Greg Dalton.

1:03.5

Would capping and trading carbon pollution

1:05.6

create a prosperous and clean economy,

1:08.0

or would it burden consumers and be a boondoggle for Wall Street and

1:11.3

opportunists in developing countries? Touted as a market-based way to internalize the cost of

1:16.6

carbon, now spewed for free into our air, cap-and-trade is at the center of America's quest for a

1:22.6

national energy policy. California and about two dozen states in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico are pursuing

1:29.2

a cap-and-trade system intended to be the foundation of a North American carbon market.

1:34.9

In Washington, D.C., a law creating a national market is either dead in the water on life

1:39.9

support or very much alive, depending on who was asked. Here to discuss these issues with our audience in San Francisco, we have three viewpoints from

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an expert economist, Larry Goulder, as chair of the Department of Economics at Stanford University,

1:53.3

an avid advocate, Kristen Everhart, is a legal director at the Natural Resources Defense

1:58.1

Council, and a fervent skeptic, Michael Schellenberger, president of the Breakthrough Institute.

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Please welcome them to Climate I.

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Professor Guller, let's start with you.

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