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Thank you. Hi, this is Josh Marshall and this is the Josh Marshall podcast featuring K. Riga.

We are recording, as we usually do, Wednesday afternoon, about an hour later than we usually do.

We've got a lot to talk about.

We're going to talk about Jimmy Kimmel.

We're going to talk about some SCOTA stuff, and we are going to talk about the state

of whether you still get in trouble for committing crimes in the United States, at least at the

federal level. But before we talk about that, I want to make sure you know about something else.

And that is that the website that publishes this podcast, Talking Points Memo, TPM, we are coming up on our 25th anniversary.

And, you know, when I was working in the history field, you know, you talk about things that are centuries old and stuff

like that, well, 25 years. But in digital media, 25 years is a really, really, really big deal.

We have watched all sorts of news organizations that came along a number of years after us that

have disappeared and all that stuff. So we are really excited about it. The actual

anniversary is on November 13th of this year. But a week earlier, on November 6th and 7th,

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