This is a series of cb-s I in the world. I'm John Bachelor. Sir John Alexander McDonald, born Scotland, the year 1815. He grew up, however, in the province of Upper Canada, today we call

it Ontario, and to help me understand why a man of such esteemed success, the man who is given the title founder if everything else is not

accurate that is of modern Canada is the subject of derision by elements in Canada who want to correct the record with

well what I read from Conrad Black's column of the National Post is

Creativity.

Comrade a very good evening to you.

Please help my audience in America meet John McDonald and his success in Canada.

You know, well, he, he, occasionally he is represented as the George Washington of Canada.

Now, it's a different tradition because, you know, we didn't rebel against the British.

We just said that we wanted independence and I think because of the example of what happened in the

U.S. the British said, said all right that's fine you're going

have independence but it took a lot of negotiation both with other Canadians

with the French Canadians especially and with the British and and

McDonald's masterminded all of that. He arranged

the coalition within Canada. He arranged the terms of a new country and he sold it

to the British both parties, Gladstone and Israeli.

And then he was a delegate at the Washington Conference in 1871 where the British and Canadians and Americans

sorted out all the grievances that had developed during the Civil War, you know

where the British let the Alabama sail and the Americans had, you know,

they had a number of annoyances against Britain.

They had no complaint with Canada, but they, at that point, didn't recognize that Canada was really an independent

country and McDonald made his point that it was an independent country and

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