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Can you teach a computer common sense?

Short Wave

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4.76.5K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2023

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Over the past decade, AI has moved right into our houses - onto our phones and smart speakers - and grown in sophistication. But many AI systems lack something we humans take for granted: common sense. In this episode Emily talks to MacArthur Fellowship-winner Yejin Choi, one of the leading thinkers on natural language processing, about how she's teaching machines to make inferences about the real world.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:07.0

Okay, so the first time I ever talked to a computer was sometime in the 90s.

0:15.6

I was at a kids' museum and I remember the computer screen had this inviting green font,

0:22.7

which said, hello, I'm Eliza.

0:25.6

I'll be your therapist today.

0:27.7

And I sat down at the keyboard and just started typing.

0:31.9

Pretty soon I was spilling to Eliza all of my middle school friendships stress, and

0:36.3

incredibly, she was responding in ways that felt almost human.

0:41.6

My encounter with Eliza was an encounter with one of the earliest natural language processing

0:47.0

systems in the world it was invented in the 60s, and nowadays there are multiple systems

0:52.6

like this.

0:53.6

Spellcheck, spam filters, Siri and Alexa.

0:55.9

Sorry if your smart assistants are now paying attention to this episode.

0:59.6

But my point is that natural language processing or the ability of machines to understand

1:05.8

an interpret human language is undergoing a revolution.

1:10.9

Nowadays instead of Eliza, chat GPT is talking up a storm.

1:16.0

But back when Yejin Choi was in college at Seoul National University in South Korea decades

1:22.5

ago, AI seemed like science fiction.

1:26.8

I loved the intellectual appeal of it, but it looked like nothing really worked.

1:32.6

In fact, this is during AI winter time.

1:35.4

This was when people used to think AI is doomed.

1:39.5

See, when AI was brand new in the 50s, people were really optimistic about what it could

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