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Can You Heal From Betrayal?

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Jennifer Chaiken, LMFT and Emmalee Bierly, LMFT

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement, Mental Health, Relationships

4.9755 Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week on ShrinkChicks, Em and Jen are reunited on the pod after baby Birdie’s birth, who is already showing off by sleeping through the night and sending her sister Millie into a slight spiral. In this episode, the two tackle one of the toughest topics in relationships: repairing after infidelity. From the shame and secrecy surrounding affairs to the consistent behaviors that rebuild trust, they share why some couples grow stronger after betrayal and what real healing requires.

Listener questions cover everything from handling judgment from family and friends, managing breakdowns post-betrayal, forgiving yourself if you were unfaithful, and deciding whether to stay or go. Plus, in Dear Em & Jen, they respond to a listener struggling with repeated betrayal in her marriage. Whether you’re facing infidelity yourself, supporting someone who is, or just curious about this topic, this episode reminds all of us that it’s possible to write a new relationship narrative.
Tune in to gain insight, awareness, and action! PS: Fast forward to around 6 minutes to skip the intro and get straight to today’s content.


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I'd get so frustrated shopping for bras and underwear that I kind of gave up.

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I'd add things to my cart online, stare at them, and then just never check out.

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My absolute favorite piece, the triangle bra.

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I am not exaggerating when I say it is the most comfortable bra I have ever owned.

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Usually the second I walk in the door,

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I cannot wait to take my bra off, but with this one, half the time I forget I'm even wearing it.

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keep looking at the rest of the skim site, making mental wishless and a set of abandoning my cart

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I'm actually excited to click checkout. It feels like I finally found intemates that actually work

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