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10% Happier with Dan Harris

Can You Get Fit Without Self-Loathing? | Cara Lai

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.612.9K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2023

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

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It's an urgent question for so many of us: Can we exercise, can we take care of our bodies, without being driven by shame, self-loathing, or noxious comparison to other people?

Our guest today has a unique perspective on this. Cara Lai is a former social worker and psychotherapist who is now a Buddhist teacher. She also used to be a marathoner. But in the last few years, her body has undergone some radical changes, leading her to some hard-won, fascinating, and deeply useful insights about how to strike the balance between taking care of your body and staying sane.


In this episode we talk about:

  • Practices for that moment when you're getting out of the shower, see yourself in the mirror, and engage in a festival of self-judgment
  • The surprising things that happened when Cara was forced to stop exercising
  • A counterintuitive mindfulness practice suggestion for those with exercise routines
  • When and why you should purposely do things you know are bad for you
  • Why we often resist 'being in our bodies,' why that's OK, and how to lower the bar on this contemplative cliché–without giving it up
  • A body-related Buddhist practice she finds to be totally not useful


Full Shownotes: https://www.tenpercent.com/tph/podcast-episode/cara-lai-612

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's the 10% happier podcast.

0:07.2

I'm Dan Harris.

0:11.0

Hello, everybody.

0:21.4

It really has been such an urgent question for me personally.

0:24.3

I've been wrestling with for decades, and I suspect I'm not alone on this.

0:29.2

Here's the question.

0:30.5

Can you exercise?

0:31.5

Can you take care of your body without being driven by shame, self-loathing, or noxious

0:36.7

comparison to other people, either in real life or on Instagram?

0:40.9

My guest today has such a unique and interesting perspective on this.

0:44.7

Carlisle is a former social worker and psychotherapist who is now a Buddhist teacher.

0:50.3

She also used to be a marathoner, the type of person who ran marathons and bare feet.

0:54.8

She was hardcore.

0:56.2

But then she got Lyme disease and her body pretty much went into mutiny mode.

1:01.3

And then after that, she got pregnant and had a child.

1:04.7

All of this threw her into a really tricky headspace when you're going to hear her discuss

1:09.1

in this very candid and very funny interview.

1:12.8

She's come to some hard-won, fascinating, and deeply useful insights about how to strike

1:17.9

this balance between taking care of your body and staying sane.

1:22.8

In this conversation, we talk about some practices she's come up with for that moment

1:26.6

when you're getting out of the shower and you see yourself in the mirror and engage

1:30.0

in a festival of self-judgment of the surprising things that happened when she was forced to

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