Can women lead in church? Part 2

Curiously Kaitlyn

Phil Vischer

Religion & Spirituality

5 • 759 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Kaitlyn and Skye Jethani are back to explain the egalitarian stance. What Bible verses at first glance seem complementation, but may reveal, with context, a more egalitarian view? What else do people overlook in our desire to find a clear “role for women” in the church?

0:00 - Theme Song

3:21 - Biblical Exemples

7:20 - Prescription vs Description

16:18 - Looking for Scriptural Logic

20:36 - Sponsor - Zocdoc - Stop putting off those doctor’s appointments! Go to https://www.zocdoc.com/KAITLYN

22:02 - Egalitarian Reading of Corinthians

29:24 - The Historical Church Perspective

36:26 - What’s Lost with the Complementarian Argument?

38:42 - Resources

41:02 - End Credits

Resources:

Discovering Biblical Equality: Biblical, Theological, Cultural, and Practical Perspectives by Ronald W. Pierce, Cynthia Long Westfall, and Christa L. McKirkland: https://a.co/d/bTqtG6m

Icons of Christ: A Biblical and Systematic Theology for Women’s Ordination by William G. Witt: https://a.co/d/9C53kJo

Paul and Gender: Reclaiming the Apostle’s Vision for Men and Women in Christ by Cynthia Long Westfall: https://a.co/d/dNtFT9z

Transcript

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0:00.0	Hey, friends. If you listened last week, you know that we're taking a little break from our usual Curiously Caitlin episodes. But don't worry, we're not leaving you empty-handed. One of the questions we get asked most often at Holy Post Media is about women in pastoral leadership. A few months ago, Sky and I recorded a two-part getting-schooled series diving deep into that very conversation. Last week, we released part one of
0:22.5	that conversation, where we talked about complementarianism and the biblical arguments behind it.
0:27.2	Make sure to check out that episode if you haven't yet. This week, we're back with part two on
0:32.1	egalitarianism. Our goal is to give the best version of both sides of the argument and help you think well about this really important and often personal question.
0:41.1	Also, a friendly reminder that getting schooled episodes are usually exclusively for Holy Post Plus subscribers.
0:47.4	So if you like this kind of content and want more of it, make sure to subscribe to Holy Post Plus to get access to all of the getting schooled episodes,
0:56.5	along with all of the other great content on Holy Post Plus.
1:02.0	I don't know.
1:05.7	That doesn't make any sense.
1:08.7	Curiously. make any sense. Hey All right, children, take your seat. Kately
1:12.6	Yeah.
1:13.6	And it's
1:16.6	All right, children, take your seats.
1:20.6	Caitlin Chess is back in the classroom to school us today.
1:23.6	And given the topic, I guess it might be appropriate that you're a woman and
1:29.4	it's only children. I'm going to school you. Exactly. And we're not all children here. So last
1:35.3	time we talked about complementarianism because there are multiple ways to apply that theology. And we're
1:41.4	back to talk about egalitarianism. Are there multiple?
1:45.0	Sort of.
1:46.0	Sort of.
1:47.0	There could be.
1:48.0	Okay.
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