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Can We Trust Social-Emotional Learning (SEL)?

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4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2022

⏱️ 119 minutes

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Summary

The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Episode 98 Schools all across the United States and wider Western world are rapidly incorporating Social-Emotional Learning (SEL) into all aspects of the educational experience and environment. Can we trust it? There are excellent reasons why we shouldn't (https://newdiscourses.com/2022/08/the-dark-truth-about-social-emotional-learning-sel/). Everyone seems to be pushing it, though. Not just our state and federal government, and governments throughout the West and the SEL parent organization, CASEL, but also huge organizations like the World Economic Forum (WEF), United Nations (through UNESCO), the OECD and World Bank, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and USAID, among others. Why? In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, host James Lindsay goes through portions of two documents about Social-Emotional Learning, one from UNESCO (https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000372241) (about its use in overcoming the cognitive dissonance associated with making education be about achieving the United Nations Sustainable Development Goals of Agenda 2030) and one from USAID (https://www.edu-links.org/sites/default/files/media/file/Equity%2C%20Inclusion%2C%20and%20Social-Emotional%20Learning.pdf) (about the need to implement it to advance equity), and makes a strong case that however much you currently trust SEL, you should trust it less. Whatever is going on with SEL, it seems incredibly suspicious! Join him for an unsettling discussion. Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Subscribe to New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2022 New Discourses. All rights reserved.

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0:00.0

Hello everybody, it's James Lindsay and you are listening to the new Discourses podcast.

0:25.1

And today we are talking about social emotional learning again.

0:32.4

The reason we're talking about social emotional learning again is because however much you trust

0:37.1

social emotional learning at this point, you still trust it too much.

0:40.8

If you trust it zero, you still trust it too much.

0:43.7

If you trust it negative 100, you still trust it too much.

0:48.4

Social emotional learning is creepy.

0:51.0

emotional learning is a disaster. Now we've done some long podcasts on social

0:56.1

emotional learning here on the new discourses podcast and it would be great if I could

1:00.5

summarize what they'll say but let me do the more recent one a little bit

1:06.6

of justice where I track the weirdness of first I did the social emotional

1:11.5

learning through the handbook of social and emotional learning research and

1:15.0

practice which is a book. It's kind of like the book on social emotional

1:19.2

learning and I pointed out for example that the goal is to implement it in a

1:25.1

very strategic way throughout the entire school systemically and that the

1:29.7

forward which is written by Linda Darling Hammond who is one of the big

1:33.2

proponents of social emotional learning. One of the reasons we have the social

1:36.8

emotional learning push indicates that it's explicitly designed to be based

1:43.2

in the work of Pollo Ferrari which should freak you all out given how much we

1:47.2

know about Pollo Ferrari now. I have a book coming out about Pollo Ferrari

1:51.8

soon there's a new discourses platform so keep your eyes open for that. It'll be

1:56.3

called the Marxification of Education but Linda Darling Hammond says that the

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