Can We Blame the Internet for Buffalo?

Offline with Jon Favreau

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, News

4.7 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 May 2022

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Ben Collins covers disinformation, extremism, and the internet for NBC News. This week, he’s reported on the shooting in Buffalo, combing through the killer’s chat logs to make sense of the internet’s role in his radicalization. He sits down with Jon to make sense of it all, explaining the ways sites like 4Chan serve as breeding grounds for extremism and what it’s going to take for us to face this hate and violence head on.

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0:00.0	The example I always use, if you're on a Taylor Swift form and everyone's talking about
0:04.6	Taylor Swift and some of you will hate some Taylor Swift songs and some people think
0:07.3	she's doing the wrong thing or dating the wrong guy or whatever, that's totally cool.
0:11.2	But if a guy came in there every day and is like, today I'm talking about Honey Bake
0:13.8	Tam.
0:14.8	Every day, everyone should eat one Honey Bake Tam and people who don't, by the way, should
0:18.2	be shot out of a cannon.
0:19.7	If the Taylor Swift form owner is not allowed to ban the Honey Bake Tam guy, then we're
0:24.0	in deep trouble.
0:25.0	It becomes a Honey Bake Tam form.
0:26.6	If you're allowed to do this, as a group, we've lived with this, college football
0:30.6	forms in the internet, we've lived with this.
0:32.4	There are basic sets of rules, like in every community throughout the world.
0:37.4	And if you want no rules, then you're going to end up with a really bad space.
0:41.0	It's how it goes.
0:43.0	I'm John Favreau.
0:44.1	Welcome to Offland.
0:45.6	Hey, everyone.
0:48.4	My guest today is Ben Collins, a reporter who covers disinformation, extremism and the
0:53.0	internet for NBC News.
0:55.4	The conversation the two of us had about the internet's role and radicalization is
0:59.4	one that I've wanted to have for a while.
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