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Hello and welcome to Coffee How Shots, the spectators daily and sometimes twice daily

politics podcast. I'm Max Jeffery and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and James Forsyth.

Tom Tuganhart has been knocked out of the Conservative leadership contest.

Katie, can you talk us through tonight's results?

Yes, so in the third ballot, as you say, Tom Tuganhart was knocked out. I don't think that's

a great surprise. I think that he'd look at the fact he came last in the second ballot.

This was expected. I think Tom Tuganhart only wanted to get to the TV debates. He achieved that

he did pretty well when it came to the polling of the general public. So in Friday's,

the first debate, the channel for debate, he actually came out on top and then he came second

in the general public polling when it came to the second ITV debate. Now, in a way, Tom Tuganhart's

whole pitch was effectively, I haven't been in government. I can criticise all these decisions

and I can criticise Boris Johnson the most of any candidate. So while I think it won him some

public plaudits in terms of the mix of voters sitting at home, many of them will not like Boris Johnson,

I don't think it did actually that much to endure himself to Tory MPs. And there is definitely a

sense that he, you know, by almost dismissing collective responsibility or, you know, being quite

critical of the decisions the minister had taken. I think it actually turned some off and he actually,

he lost a vote when he, when you look at his results compared to the second ballot.

Now, when you're looking at what else is there because I think that was fairly priced in. So

I think probably the more intriguing elements of this vote are that other candidates. So Rishi

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