Can Trump Outrun The Law?
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🗓️ 14 June 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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This episode is a part of Opinionpalooza. Slate’s coverage of Supreme Court decisions. Thank you to our Slate Plus members for making this episode available to all listeners. The full version of this episode is now exclusively available to our Slate Plus members. If you want to have access to bonus content like this, go to slate.com/amicusplus to become a member.
An extra episode of Amicus as the former President of the United States, Donald J Trump, is arraigned in federal court in Miami on 37 counts, entering a plea of not guilty. Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Ryan Goodman, co-editor-in-chief of Just Security, Professor of Law at NYU School of Law, a distinguished fellow at the National Institute of Military Justice, and former special counsel at the Department of Defense. Together, they step back from the spectacle to examine the challenge of prosecuting a former President over things that were supposed to be state secrets, and whether Trump can use politics to outrun justice this time.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm not sure if I can do it. |
| 0:09.0 | Seeing an indictment like this, if we're not done in turn, I would say of course the defendant |
| 0:13.8 | is going to plead guilty. |
| 0:19.0 | Hi and welcome to another special edition of Amicus. |
| 0:22.0 | This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the rule of law. |
| 0:25.4 | I'm Dalia Lyswick. |
| 0:26.8 | That is my beat at Slate. |
| 0:28.4 | And it seems hard to believe it, but around 3pm Tuesday afternoon, Donald J. Trump presented |
| 0:35.6 | himself at the Wilkie D. Ferguson Jr. |
| 0:38.8 | US Courthouse in downtown Miami for an arrangement, initial appearance in a case known as United |
| 0:46.2 | States V. Trump and Nada. |
| 0:48.8 | As is the case with so very many of these trial of the year, movie premieres, it's easy |
| 0:54.1 | to get hyper focused on all the cars arriving and the photographers and the flash bulbs and |
| 0:59.1 | the screaming fans in adorable costumes. |
| 1:02.4 | By Tuesday evening, Trump was headed to Bedminster for a campaign speech and after his speech, |
| 1:08.4 | he had a fundraiser with donors who raised at least $100,000 for his campaign, all |
| 1:14.8 | invited to a quote, candlelight dinner. |
| 1:17.8 | Beneath all of this, Wilkie won't he horse race. |
| 1:21.0 | Drama stuff. |
| 1:22.9 | This lawsuit stands as a deadly serious moment for democracy, for the rule of law, for national |
| 1:27.6 | security. |
| 1:29.1 | And if you read the 49-page indictment filed by Jack Smith in this case, it is amply |
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