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🗓️ 19 January 2023
⏱️ 21 minutes
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We’re kicking off the year with a throwback. We revisit a 2019 episode that opened up new possibilities for fighting back against outrageous medical bills — a theme we’ll spend a lot more time exploring this year
A listener named Miriam got a bill from a medical testing lab she’s never heard of, for $35. Then, a follow-up bill said if she didn’t pay up right away, that price was going up — WAY up: to $1,287.
Which raises the kind of question that comes up a LOT with medical billing: Can some random lab hit you up for money — and then threaten you with a late fee of more than $1,000??
We went to find out.
The answer: They can try. And a lot of the time, they’ll get away with it. But we found experts who explain how, sometimes, we can fight back— by threatening to take them to court.
If you’ve got the time and the moxie, these experts say you’re on solid legal ground, and you really can make the other side accept a fair offer.
We’ll come back to this idea next time. Meanwhile, here’s a 2020 episode with the story of a guy who took his local hospital to court, and won.
The original version of this story, from 2019, found us learning about a couple topics we went on to explored in more depth later: Surprise bills — which we got new legal protections from in 2022— and the role of private equity in health care, both how it’s been expanding, and how some doctors are trying to fight back.
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0:00.0 | Hey there, I have to start with a big thank you to everybody who supports this show. |
0:05.0 | It's January, we wrapped up our big funders and campaign at New Year's and more than 600 |
0:10.4 | of you came through for us. |
0:11.9 | We hit all our targets, including our stretch goal, it is huge. |
0:16.4 | So I will have a lot of people to thank at the end of this episode and I want to think |
0:21.2 | about how to celebrate. |
0:22.8 | Thanks to you, this year is off to an amazing start. |
0:26.3 | And for this first episode of 2023, I'm going back to a story we first put out more than |
0:31.4 | three years ago in 2019, because this story changed my whole conception of what this |
0:38.1 | show can aim to do. |
0:39.8 | And when I meet people today and tell them about an arm and a leg for the first time, this |
0:44.0 | is the story I tell them about. |
0:46.6 | Because this is a story about legal rights I never suspected we had and how we can sometimes |
0:52.8 | use them to fight back. |
0:54.7 | I learned a lot of other stuff over reporting this story about surprise bills and the role |
0:58.7 | of private equity. |
0:59.7 | It was early days for the show and we're leaving out those parts this time. |
1:04.2 | We've gone deeper on them in other episodes and some of the underlying facts have changed. |
1:08.0 | In fact, some things have gone out of date in good ways, thanks to the Federal No Surprises |
1:13.6 | Act, which took effect last year. |
1:16.0 | But the part about fighting back, standing up for our legal rights, that holds up. |
1:23.8 | It's ready for some follow-up. |
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