Can the World Force Taylor Swift to Speak Now?

Diabolical Lies

Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 607 Ratings

🗓️ 24 August 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Taylor Swift recently confirmed the imminent arrival of her 12th studio album, Life of a Showgirl. Over the course of a single fateful podcast interview, a new musical era wasn’t ushered through our cultural door so much as it kicked down the door entirely, machine guns blazing, screaming at us to drop to our knees and choke glitter.

The marketing rollout for the Latest Taylor Swift Album to Save the Music Industry is now in full force, and likely will continue at pace through the album’s release date in October. For example, If you type Swift’s name into the Google search engine, your screen will rain orange confetti. Or if you enjoy following CPG brands on social media1, then you might have noticed the corporate leach effect of what amounts to one long algorithmic skid mark of unofficial brand collabs: United, Post It, Mentos, Oli Pop, Hallmark, Victoria’s Secret, Sharpie, and the Virginia Department of Transportation, to name a few. Who says social media innovation is dead!

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0:00.0	Today's episode of Diabolical Lies is brought to you by Boogie Baby, George Wright,
0:05.6	Ama Kananasky, Dills Delicious, Mardazette, Mama Mialtskia, Daniel Elizabeth, and every other
0:11.6	TikTok user who has come into my comments and DMs to say that I have not sufficiently held
0:15.9	Taylor Swift accountable for her war crimes. Their words, not mine?
0:19.7	None of those words were in the Bible.
0:23.6	Katie, less than five days ago, I proclaimed publicly that I had no interest in talking
0:28.1	about Taylor Swift on Maine. And now here we are. Who says online bullying isn't effective in
0:34.2	getting extremely hot and famous women to do what you want?
0:38.2	They have officially extracted concessions.
0:41.5	Here we go, baby.
0:42.9	Been a long time coming.
0:46.8	Can you imagine if I showed up to this episode and just went ten toes down,
0:51.5	Swithy Apologist?
0:52.8	It's like you guys are just being, really mean and you're really jealous.
0:56.8	I was going to screenshot a comment from TikTok that was like, you and Katie are serious Taylor Swift apologists, but then I was like, this is going to make smoke pour out of Katie's ears.
1:04.6	So I'm glad that you acknowledge that first.
1:07.7	Anyways, the discourse that has inspired us to have this conversation today is some version of air quotes.
1:15.0	Taylor Swift has not done enough.
1:16.7	She has not done anything as it pertains to the humanitarian crisis in Gaza.
1:21.4	Now, this is an accusation that has been leveled at her in the past for other topics.
1:25.9	I would say climate change is an example, private jet usage, other man-made atrocities.
1:31.6	And she has yet to speak about almost any of them.
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