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🗓️ 17 August 2025
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In this (bonus) conversation…
Ever wondered why Bari Weiss is constantly creeping around the perimeters of the conversations we have on this podcast? Well, folks, today’s the day to understand.
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0:00.0 | Okay, so first announcement in this bonus up is that I got my lashes tinted and curled. |
0:04.2 | Katie, I have gotten more feedback from this on social media than when I sold my |
0:09.0 | motherfucking book. |
0:10.4 | It is crazy. |
0:12.8 | I love that you were like, so, yeah, I will be chasing more of this feeling. |
0:17.1 | It feels good to feel hot and powerful. |
0:19.3 | This just in, guys. |
0:20.8 | Yeah, I forgot how much superficial affirmation can really goose your feathers, which is a metaphor I just made up. Okay, we need to be efficient today because we both just took edibles and we're going to be talking about Barry Weiss again somehow. Katie, we have been talking about Barry Weiss on and off since the beginning of this podcast. |
0:40.3 | Can you give me a quick elevator pitch on what you know about Barry Weiss in the free press? |
0:45.3 | More than I would like to know at this space of my life. |
0:50.3 | Barry Weiss is what I would say, the final boss of I'm a liberal but style, brave, independent thinking. |
1:01.5 | The free press is kind of this outlet that she started when she parlayed a very dramatic exit from being the editor of the op-ed section of the New York Times, |
1:15.3 | which is kind of this classic, like, I'm being silenced and censored from my post as the editor |
1:20.3 | at the largest English-speaking newspaper in the world, |
1:24.3 | into a stick that has quickly been co-opted or commandeered maybe by design |
1:31.2 | by this kind of like techno-fascist billionaire class who like need a young nominally liberal |
1:38.7 | lesbian to essentially like launder all their bad takes. |
1:45.1 | I really like the way that Giotolentino describes her in Trickmere, |
1:49.2 | which like the first time I read Trickmere, I actually didn't know who Barry Boyce was. |
1:52.8 | But I was thinking about it again, how I was like, |
1:55.7 | I think she kind of talks about this in one of her sections about scamming maybe. |
2:00.0 | I think it might be the essay about |
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