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Who else is here?

Well, President Malay has a gift for me.

Javier Malay from Argentina.

You guys know what that is, right? This is the chainsaw for bureaucracy.

The chainsaw for bureaucracy.

That was Elon Musk, wielding a chainsaw on stage back in February.

When he came into government to show just how much money could be saved

and how much government could be cut.

In his short stint there, very little money was actually saved.

But plenty was lost.

On today's episode, we discuss if and why Americans have really fallen out of love with their government.

And what happens when you dismantle it.

We're joined by Michael Lewis.

Welcome to the Newsagents USA.

We have a real treat for you on today's episode of the Newsagents USA.

We talked to the writer Michael Lewis,

author of Moneyball, The Big Short, The Fifth Risk, which sold half a million copies, looks at the

workings of government in Donald Trump's first term. Michael always somehow seems a step ahead

of where the public mood is, although he describes himself as the man who comes in

after disaster has struck and shoots the wounded. His new book is called Who is Government? It feels

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