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Can the climate survive AI’s thirst for energy?

Science Weekly

The Guardian

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4.21K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2024

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Artificial intelligence companies have lofty ambitions for what the technology could achieve, from curing diseases to eliminating poverty. But the energy required to power these innovations is threatening critical environmental targets. Madeleine Finlay hears from the Guardian’s energy correspondent, Jillian Ambrose, and UK technology editor, Alex Hern, to find out how big AI’s energy problem is, and whether it can be solved before it is too late. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/sciencepod

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This is the Guardian.

0:09.0

Artificial intelligence companies have some pretty lofty ambitions for what the technology

0:15.7

could achieve, from curing diseases to eliminating poverty.

0:21.7

But there's a snag, one that could bring it all crashing back down to earth.

0:28.0

AIs thirst for energy.

0:31.0

Take a look at Google's latest environmental report. It revealed that its greenhouse gas emissions,

0:35.8

generally 50% in the past five years on the back of its expansion of data centers that power

0:41.2

AI systems.

0:49.0

Microsoft is also having to rethink its climate goals in the light of its AI push. But proponents like Bill Gates argue, the investment is worth it, because the tech could also be the key to solving the climate crisis.

1:00.0

We're here showing the state of progress and, you know, makes me optimistic that these

1:05.9

technologies will get out and start to bring emissions down. So we're asking, how big is AI's energy problem? Can an industry whose emissions are

1:20.0

going up help the rest of the worlds to go down.

1:24.0

And, will it happen in time?

1:27.0

From the Guardian, I'm Madeline Finley,

1:31.0

and this is Science Weekly.

1:35.0

To unravel all these questions, today I'm joined by the Guardians UK technology editor Alex Hearn and

1:46.1

Energy Correspondent Jillian Ambrose. Alex I'm going to turn to you first. I think the most recognizable place people will have interacted with

1:56.2

AI these days is chat gPT so I'm going to take that as our example if If I ask chat gp-p-tte to write me a speech about mushrooms,

2:08.0

step me through where all the energy consumption of that request actually comes in.

2:14.0

The initial use is your phone, which is burning power whenever you use it all the time.

2:19.0

One day, maybe AI models will be run on your phone.

2:24.3

But right now, those questions are offloaded

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