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Can Meta Make a Twitter Killer?

Channels with Peter Kafka

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Technology, Tv & Film, Business News, News

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2023

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

We’re one week into the Threads era. How long is that going to last? What does it mean for Twitter, really? And what do Threads and continued chaos at Twitter say about the future of social media? That’s maybe a lot to talk tackle, but we’re going to do it anyway. NYT tech reporter Mike Isaac (@mikeisaac) joins Vox’s Peter Kafka to get us up to speed on Mark Zuckerberg’s effort to depants Elon Musk — it seems to be going pretty well, for the moment. And we’ll try to answer one big question: Why exactly does Zuckerberg want a Twitter clone, anyway? Then veteran tech exec and big thinker Eugene Wei (@eugenewei) joins to talk about what Musk got wrong at Twitter, why Meta is building its own Twitter using cues from Instagram and TikTok, and life in the algorithm age. Host: Peter Kafka (@pkafka), Senior Editor at Recode More to explore: Subscribe for free to Recode Media, Peter Kafka, one of the media industry's most acclaimed reporters, talks to business titans, journalists, comedians, and more to get their take on today's media landscape. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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this is recode media with peter kofka that is me i was on vacation. It was nice. And now I'm back.

1:12.4

While I was gone, as you may have heard, Mark Zuckerberg, deep-pantsed Elon Musk by launching

1:17.7

threads, his Twitter clone. I was bummed that I didn't get to cover it right away. But now I've

1:21.8

decided that was a good thing. See, that's how you make lemonade out of a lemon. Because now

1:26.7

I've got some time, a bit of space to breathe and think about what threads does and doesn't mean. Things to get very hyped on a launch day. And you get a couple days, you get a little space, you get to do a little, a little more thinky stuff. That's what we'd like to do over here at Recode Media. So helping me breathe and think about Twitter and threads and Mark and Elon,

1:46.0

today are two people I turn to when I want to get smarter, Mike Isaac who covers social media

1:50.2

from New York Times, and Eugene Way, a tech veteran who does some really deep thinking about

1:54.7

the way the internet does and doesn't work. First I talked to Mike to get some perspective

1:59.3

on why exactly Mark Zuckerberg wanted to launch a Twitter clone since he crushed Twitter years ago.

2:04.7

What's the point of this?

2:06.3

And then I talked to Eugene about what Elon got wrong about Twitter besides the fact that he bought Twitter in the first place.

2:13.1

And I also about the fact that Mehta's Twitter clone works a lot more like Instagram or TikTok than

2:19.1

Twitter and what living in the age of algorithms means for all of us. It's heady, thinky stuff.

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