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Today in Focus

Can I tell you a secret? Episode six: the winding clock

Today in Focus

The Guardian

News, Daily News

4.65.9K Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Revisited: As the years tick by, journalist Sirin Kale speaks to victims and those who know Matthew to ask whether his stalking will ever truly end. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

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0:00.0

This is the Guardian.

0:05.6

Just before we begin, this is a podcast series about

0:09.1

Storting and some people might find parts of it difficult to listen to.

0:19.6

Over this series, we follow the impact of Matthew Hardy through over a decade of his

0:24.9

storting, a decade which culminated in what's believed by police to be the longest ever sentence

0:31.6

handed out to a cyber storter in a Ute court. Since we started making this podcast, Matthew has

0:38.5

been granted permission to appeal his sentence, but Matthew being behind bars isn't the end of this story.

0:45.2

Hi, hi, Jill. Hi, I'm Sharon. Hi, how are you? Nice to meet you.

0:58.1

I'm so, so beautiful. Thank you. Is that, well, I think you're driving, is that, is that

1:05.6

I can shed? Yes, so this is our gym, which we built through COVID, so come out. Everything's

1:17.3

very heavily locked everywhere you're noticing. Yes, well, it's, it's, I'm gone.

1:23.6

Inside Jill Greenwood's home gym is the biggest kettlebell I've ever seen in my life.

1:28.8

Seriously, I couldn't even push it over if I tried. These are like my children over here.

1:34.7

So this one is 56 kilos. So that's the beast. I would deadlift with that one or I've

1:42.4

swung with it as well. When Jill's not swimming the beast like it's a bag of testo shopping,

1:49.4

she works in prisons and with convicted criminals in the Manchester area.

1:54.4

The reason that I took this weightlifting on in the first place was because I was at probation officer.

2:00.6

I know that people are capable of almost anything and I felt vulnerable, physically vulnerable

2:06.7

and the stronger I got, I behaved differently, you know, I'd, I'd hold myself differently.

2:14.9

Deely Miss Dautez is a regular part of Jill's job, but she didn't expect it to also become a part

2:23.4

of her personal life. Because in June 2021, she became a victim of Matthew Hardy.

2:32.6

He started storting Jill when he was on port bail awaiting trial in that bumper taste,

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