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Well, as you're scrolling through social media, you're going to see some milestone anniversaries that couples post.

It's, oh, five years, ten years, 25 years.

These are wonderful highlights, but it doesn't show you that moment where maybe they kind of hit the rocks and wondered, are we going to make it?

I'm John Fuller, along with Greg and Aaron Smalley, who lead the marriage team here hit the rocks and wondered, are we going to make it? I'm John Fuller, along with

Greg and Aaron Smalley, who lead the marriage team here at the ministry. And Greg and Aaron,

I don't want to be dramatic, but you've had some rocks along the way, and you've been pretty

transparent about those. Give us a moment or two where you wondered, is this going to make it?

Yeah, I would see, John, there probably hasn't been a time that I thought, man, is this going to make it yeah I would see John that

there there probably hasn't been a time that I thought man we're gonna get

divorced but I wasn't sure that Aaron wanted to stay with me and I think one time

in particular we've shared that we really struggled with conflict and just learning how to manage

conflict. And there was one time that we were on a family vacation, I think we were in like

a Galveston, Texas or somewhere down there. And it was all of my extended family. It was kind of like a little mini reunion.

And I could not even tell you the details.

I'm sure I've blocked it out.

But something, right?

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