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The Proof with Simon Hill

Can dairy be regenerative? | Ecologist Nicholas Carter

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness

4.9 • 3.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2022

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

In Episode #230, I’m joined by ecologist Nicholas Carter to examine the role of dairy and other animal foods on the environment. We discuss the implications of our food choices, detailing the impact of dairy specifically. Nicholas Carter breaks down the ways we measure environmental impact, and the strengths and shortfalls of these systems. We also cover “carbon neutral” dairy, regenerative grazing, biodiversity loss, and much more. Over the course of recent episodes, we’ve worked towards building a more comprehensive picture of the topics covered. Alongside some incredible guests, we’ve covered the theory, mechanisms, and implementation of exercise, and this episode we continue building out this broader view with dairy. In Episode #225, Dr Alan Flanagan honed in on the health implications of dairy. Today, I sit down with Nicholas Carter to examine the planetary effects of dairy production and consumption, helping you make more informed decisions in support of sustainability. Specifically, we discuss: Intro (0:00) What Causes Climate Change (2:22) Agriculture Today vs in the Past (7:06) Biodiversity Loss (11:28) Incentives for Sustainability (17:26) Cattle Grazing & Wildfires (25:15) Red Meat & Dairy (28:40) Global Dairy Production (30:55) Myths about Regenerative Agriculture (36:03) Comparing Sheep/Cow Milk (45:46) ‘Carbon Neutral’ Dairy (47:35) Milk Substitutions (58:50) Precision Fermentation (1:06:36) Diet for Planetary Health (1:10:22) Future of Food (1:16:23) Outro (1:22:12) To connect with or reach out to Nicholas Carter, you can find him on Twitter and Instagram. For more information on environmental welfare, find an abundance of resources and summaries of the most reputable research on Nicholas’ website, https://www.plantbaseddata.org/. Listen to Episode #225 with Alan Flanagan to learn about the human health aspect of dairy consumption. There are dozens of studies and additional resources to support this episode. Find them in the full show notes, at https://theproof.com/podcast/. Enjoy, friends. Simon Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out, and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. Simon Hill, Msc, Bsc (Hons) Creator of TheProof.com and host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Watch the episodes on YouTube, or Listen on Apple/Spotify Connect with me on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook Download my complimentary two week meal plan and high protein plant performance recipe book

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey there, I've got a very quick message to share with you before we jump into the episode.

0:06.5

Let's keep this under 30 seconds, shall we?

0:09.9

This episode is proudly brought to you by Amille.

0:11.9

Amille is a plant-based wellness company focused on formulating evidence-based supplements

0:16.6

to optimize our health.

0:18.2

I personally take Amille's essential aid multi-nutrient, so I start my day, which contains eight

0:23.7

essential nutrients in the right forms and dosages to perfectly complement a plant-rich

0:28.5

diet.

0:29.5

Amille offers no magic pills or hyperbolic claims, just good quality supplements that we

0:34.8

can trust.

0:35.8

To check out Amille and get 10% off your first order, visit theproof.com forward slash friends.

0:41.4

I'll pop a link to that in the show notes.

0:45.2

So soy milk would be a better option from an environmental perspective than the most

0:50.6

regeneratively produced, most bio-dynamic, most organic, local, farm-next-door dairy milk.

0:58.0

And by far, not even close.

1:03.2

Welcome to theproof podcast, a space for science-based conversation exploring the health and longevity

1:08.6

benefits that come with mastering nutrition, physical exercise, mindfulness, recovery,

1:15.2

sleep, and alignment.

1:17.0

Facts, nuance, and trustworthy recommendations minus the hyperbolic.

1:22.6

Nicholas Carter, crowd favorite and regularly guest on the show.

1:26.2

It's been about a year.

1:28.2

Welcome back.

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