Can criminal profiling identify a killer?
All In The Mind
ABC Australia
4.5 • 825 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Criminal profiling promises a lot — being able to piece together a picture of a suspect through clues, intuition and psychology sounds great. But how reliable is it?
In our first episode of Forensic, a four-part series unpacking the psychological tools used to solve crimes, we examine the history of criminal profiling. How it got popular in the 1950s after bombings in New York City, its shortcomings when scrutinised by researchers, and the techniques it is built on that police deploy today (but with a lot more data).
Guests:
Michael CannellAuthor, Incendiary: The Psychiatrist, the Mad Bomber and the Invention of Criminal ProfilingFormer Editor, The New York Times
Professor Craig JacksonProfessor of Occupational Health PsychologyBirmingham City University
Dr Victoria BerezowskiLecturer, Forensic Science, Deakin University
Credits:
- Presenter/producer: Sana Qadar
- Senior producer: James Bullen
- Producer: Rose Kerr
- Sound engineer: Isabella Tropiano
You can catch up on more episodes of the All in the Mind podcast with journalist and presenter Sana Qadar, exploring the psychology of topics like stress, memory, communication and relationships on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.
Further Information:
- Incendiary - Michael Cannell
- The Organized/Disorganized Typology of Serial Murder: Myth or Model?
- Is criminal profiling dead? Should it be? Psychology Today
- George Metesky, the ‘Mad Bomber’ – Wikipedia
- Unmasking the Mad Bomber – The Smithsonian, 2017
- A 16-Year Hunt For New York’s ‘Mad Bomber’ – NPR, 2011
- An overview of offender profiling – International Journal of Police Science and Management, 2024
- Offender profiling: a review of the research and state of the field – Police Psychology, 2021
- The Grit, Glamour and Gall of Criminal Profiling – The University of Arizona, 2021
- Casebook of a Crime Psychiatrist – James Brussel, 1968
- Dangerous Minds - The New Yorker
Transcript
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| 0:09.0 | I'm David Maher, host of Late Night Live on Radio National, where nothing's off-limits. |
| 0:14.5 | You know, part of being an adult is dealing with discomfort. |
| 0:17.7 | We gather the sharpest minds around to hash over what's shaping this crazy world. |
| 0:23.5 | Both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party succumbed to big money. |
| 0:28.8 | Late Night Live, four new shows a week on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:40.4 | Let me take you to 1950s, New York City. |
| 0:44.7 | The town is being terrorized by a so-called mad bomber who's setting off explosives up and down Manhattan. |
| 0:51.7 | He was setting the bombs off in subways, in a phone booth in the New York Public Library, |
| 0:58.6 | in department stores. |
| 1:00.8 | He placed one in the Empire State Building, which has never been found. |
| 1:05.8 | So in theory, it's still there somewhere. |
| 1:07.8 | Yikes. |
| 1:08.8 | Okay, good to know. But casting back to the 1950s, this mad bomber, he hasn't |
| 1:14.5 | killed anyone yet. But a bunch of people have been injured and many more are terrified |
| 1:20.5 | of going out in case they become a victim. You know, as it approached the holiday season, |
| 1:25.6 | the police realized that they had a very serious problem on their hands |
| 1:30.4 | because New York, of course, was flooded with people during the holiday season. |
| 1:34.4 | And so they were desperate to catch him before he killed anybody. |
| 1:38.0 | This is Michael Cannell, nonfiction author, journalist, and former editor of the New York Times. |
| 1:44.3 | I can tell you that I was not born, but my older brothers were born. |
| 1:48.5 | And my own mother said that she would not take my brothers outside at the height of this bombing campaign. |
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