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Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you, and then let it go.

For me, our soul is like it's unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves.

When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to ourselves, and that's where you become empowered.

Courageous participation attracts positive things.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow, and this is the Goop Podcast, where we bring together visionaries, scientists, healers, artists, and seekers.

I'm so grateful that I get to interview these extraordinary thought leaders and share their wisdom with you.

And I love listening to the conversations that are led by my co-host and dear friend, Cleo Wade.

Cleo is a beautiful poet and author. I deeply admire her and the way she keeps her heart open to the world.

Together, we believe that engaging in open-minded, honest, and sometimes difficult conversations has the power to change our lives.

All right, over to Cleo.

Hi, it's Cleo Wade. We've got a really special episode today with the Elizabeth Gilbert, who sat down with Gwyneth a few years ago at In Goop Health in LA.

It's one of our favorite Goop Podcast episodes of all time, so we wanted to share it with all of you again.

As many of you know, Elizabeth is the mega best-selling author of Eat, Pray Love, Big Magic, and City Girls.

In this conversation in front of a live audience, Elizabeth and Gwyneth talk about creativity as a profound tool for healing.

This resonates so much with everything we've been talking about here in the pod.

I loved how Elizabeth explained how there are so many different ways to create in the world, even if you don't see yourself as a quote-unquote creative person.

As Elizabeth says, the universe has buried these strange little jewels within us.

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