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🗓️ 12 March 2019
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Can a DNA test make me Native American? As direct-to-consumer ancestry DNA tests gain popularity and narratives of “discovering” or “proving” Native American ancestry through DNA swirl through the media—what does that mean for Indigenous nations?
On this episode we talk with the amazing, badass, super cool Dr. Kim Tallbear (Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate), who literally wrote the book on Native American DNA. We talk about the concept of “Native DNA,” the problems of ancestry DNA tests, challenges in these areas for Native communities moving forward, Elizabeth Warren, the politics of research in Indigenous communities, and offer potential alternatives for thinking about kinship as a marker of Native belonging rather than false promises of DNA.
Kim Tallbear Bio:
Dr. Kimberly Tallbear - is Sisseton Wahpeton Oyate and also descended from the Cheyenne Arapaho Tribes of Oklahoma. She’s an Associate Professor in the faculty of Native Studies at the University of Alberta where she holds a Canadian Research Chair in Indigenous Peoples, Technoscience, and Environment. .In 2013 She literally wrote the book on Native American DNA, entitled: “Native American DNA: Tribal belonging and the false promise of genetic science”. Her Indigenous Science, Technology, and Society work recently turned to also address decolonial and Indigenous sexualities, specifically on decolonizing the centering of monogamy that she characterizes as emblematic of "settler sexualities." This builds on work she has been doing in a blog written under an alter ego, "The Critical Polyamorist." Through this work she founded a University of Alberta arts-based research lab and co-produces the sexy storytelling show, Tipi Confessions, sparked by the popular Austin, Texas show, Bedpost Confessions. She also is active on twitter, is a role model to many of us as an indigenous researcher, public scholar, and feminist scholar.
Links and resources:
Kim’s book, “Native American DNA: Tribal Belonging and the False Promise of Genetic Science”: https://www.upress.umn.edu/book-division/books/native-american-dna
Kim’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/KimTallBear
Kim's weekly Indigenous media podcast, Media Indigena: https://www.mediaindigena.com/podcast/
The Summer internship for INdigenous peoples in Genomics (SING) Workshop: https://sing.igb.illinois.edu/
If you need more context and understanding on the whole Elizabeth Warren thing, Adrienne and her fellow Cherokee colleagues Joseph Pierce and Rebecca Nagle made The Elizabeth Warren Syllabus: http://www.criticalethnicstudiesjournal.org/blog/2018/12/19/syllabus-elizabeth-warren-cherokee-citizenship-and-dna-testing
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1:04.5 | And today for our next episode, we have a really amazing and important conversation with Dr. Kim Talber about Native American DNA. |
1:16.5 | Can a DNA test make me Native American? |
1:22.5 | No. Why is this bothersome, Adrian? |
1:28.5 | And like Kim will talk in this episode about how she's been doing this since 2005 was the first time she wrote about Native American DNA. |
1:36.5 | And so this is something we've been dealing with for a long time, but right now it feels incredibly relevant, given what's going on with Elizabeth Warren and with all the conversations we're seeing online. |
1:47.5 | And the thing that I talk about with my students a lot, like trying to break down what it means to be a Native person outside of these kind of biological ideas around race. |
1:58.5 | And as a result, I have students who like send me DNA ads from TV and from subways or whatever. |
2:06.5 | And so I have this one that sticks out in my mind so much from one of my students that she snapped in the subway in New York. |
2:14.5 | And it's like this phenotypically older white guy. |
2:18.5 | And in big red letters, it says, I am 11.7% Native American. |
2:26.5 | And then underneath it, it says, you're more than meets the eye. |
2:32.5 | So it's this whole concept that like discovering Native DNA makes you like exotic and cool and different. |
2:39.5 | And there's so many problems with that ad. |
2:42.5 | Like we could spend an entire episode talking about that. |
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