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All My Relations Podcast

Native Mascots: Really, Still?

All My Relations Podcast

Matika Wilbur & Temryss Lane

Native, Documentary, Pop Culture, Society & Culture, Relationships, Indigenous, Native American, Society, Contemporary Native American Culture

53K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2019

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

In 2018 there are still over 2000 schools and professional sports teams with Native mascots, despite decades of activism and academic research demonstrating the harms of these images. Today Matika and Adrienne are in conversation with Amanda Blackhorse, Navajo social worker and mother, who was the lead plaintiff in the supreme court case against the Washington Redsk*ns, and Stephanie Fryberg, who is the top psychological researcher on these issues and has demonstrated through lab experiments and surveys how harmful these mascots are to Native youth and how they reinforce negative stereotypes.


Guest Bios

Dr. Stephanie Fryberg is a member of the Tulalip Tribes, and an expert on the psychological and educational affects of social representations of race, class, and culture. She got her PhD in Psychology at Stanford University, where she is a member of the Multicultural Hall of Fame. Just last month, she was appointed as a Gerberding University Professor at the University of Washington, recognizing her exceptional research, contributions, and accomplishments in the field of American Indian Studies and Psychology. Dr. Fryberg’s research on stereotypes, race, class and psychological development led her to testify in front of the U.S. Senate Committee on Indian Affairs on the impact of racist stereotypes on Indigenous people. My favorite title of a recent paper would be hands down: “We’re honoring you dude: Myths, Mascots and American Indians.” She is also one of the hardest workers I have ever known, and one of my most influential thought leaders.


Amanda Blackhorse is from Big Mountain on the Navajo reservation, and is a Dine’ a social worker, activist, and mother. She was the lead plaintiff in Blackhorse vs. Pro Football Inc, a 2012 case which sought to revoke trademark protection of the term Washington R*dsk*ns. She attended haskell and received her Bachelor’s degree in social work at the University of Kansas and her Master’s degree at Washington University in St. Louis. While her training and work history includes focuses on substance abuse treatment, health care, and adult mental health in the Native communities, she has fiercely fought against the use of Native American imagery and stereotypes as sports team mascots. After filing her case against Pro Football Inc., Amanda founded Arizona to Rally Against Native American Mascots, and later launched the website NoMoreNativeMascots.org. Both entities are dedicated to spreading education, organizing protests, and working towards the elimination of sports mascots based on Native American imagery. She is a badass warrior woman, and this week was standing on top of a car in Arizona protesting Native Halloween costumes.


Resources


Stephanie Fryberg

Article: Monuments that Romanticize Conquistadors

NPR Article: Experiencing Discrimination in America

Talking about invisibility & representation around the beginning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65LT8pwD8xk

Stereotypes Panel Lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOHDcJe4BC0

Amanda Blackhorse

Contact: https://www.facebook.com/ablackhorse/

2017 Ruling:

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0:00.0

Welcome friends and relatives. We're so happy to have you here with us today and tuning back

0:05.2

into this next episode of All My Relations. And today we are in the presence of greatness.

0:11.2

Matika and I are so excited to have these warrior women, scholars, sisters here with us.

0:17.8

Our mentors are idols to talk about the issue of Indian mascots.

0:24.3

So Dr. Keen, I thought maybe we could just take a moment to talk about the history of the

0:31.1

R-word and why this term is so offensive to so many of our people. Well, I think there is

0:39.8

descent within the scholarly community about like when the R-word was first used to refer to native

0:46.6

folks, it definitely is a word that throughout history was used in a derogatory and negative way

0:53.4

towards native peoples. There are some folks who say that it initially was used to refer to the

1:00.5

actual scalps of native peoples. There are plenty of ads and newspaper articles that from the 1800s

1:06.8

that refer to native peoples by the R-word, never in a positive way. It's one of those words

1:13.1

that has evolved throughout history regardless of its initial use or origin to definitely mean a racist

1:21.8

phrase towards native peoples. It's not a positive term by any means to the point that most

1:29.2

of my friends who are native won't even say the word. And I know a lot of us feel that way that

1:34.4

it really is a racial slur. Absolutely. I can't say in my own life that anybody has ever used

1:44.9

that term towards me in a loving way. I can't even, I'm trying to picture what that sentence

1:52.5

would sound like and I can't even picture that. And you know what else is that? It's not a term that

2:00.2

I think is that we've like taken back and have like popularized into contemporary culture and

2:07.6

changed its meaning to mean something other than you know a word that has a very deep

2:14.6

ugly racial slur attached to it and it's not used in any other way. And you know if somebody was

2:21.1

to walk up to me and call me the R-word those would be fighting words. Yeah. I often think of like

2:29.0

supporters of the word who seem to think that it's not a problem. In articles when they're quoted

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