Well, hello everyone. Welcome back to the Epic Gardening podcast. Kevin is

spirit to here. We have a recurring and returning guest, the man himself, Cameron

from the Busy Gardener. What's going on, man? What's going on, Kevin? Hey, so it's been a while

both since you've been on the podcast, but also you were down at the Epic homestead for at least one

time. It's not twice, right? Yeah, we hung out a couple of times. One time we shot some videos and

next time came and just kept an eye on how things were going. Yeah, he's my tree sensei. So he's been

monitoring my sort of ambitious citrus hedge plan, which I think actually is working pretty well,

dude. You're killing it. And I'm seeing what else you're planting too on social media. It looks

awesome. Yeah. Yeah. So what's going on with you? Last time we talked and I've seen what's going

on on on the on the gram, you had this wild terrace structure going on the backyard. Yeah, it's

intense. Yeah, we took this, this sloping hill that had dead grass on it and it was just slowly

being eroded onto our patio. And so we were just trying to think of what to do with it. And we

had this idea to just terrace it out. So we have like an eight foot rise from the bottom level up

to where the orchard is. And so we've got three big levels and ended up doing this huge these

huge growing beds with stairs going through the middle of it. Kind of a, I mean, that's a massive,

that's by far the biggest project we've we've done in our place construction wise. So yeah,

ended up with a ton of square foot space. We used to when we first moved in had like a 48 foot

square foot gardening thing and we tore that out. Now we have something like 900 square feet of

growing bed space. 900 square feet. It's like, it's a lot. What'd you have beforehand?

Well, like 40, 48 feet. It was just on the side. So we totally are going crazy. Even after we take

put in walkways, we're still going to have like 750 feet of growing space. What's on the agenda?

Because I know like, you know, you had the orchard expertise. I've been doing a lot of the annual

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