Welcome to All There Is. Wherever you are in the world and in your grief, I'm glad you're here. You're not alone.

My guest is Cameron Crow. He wrote and directed amazing movies like Say Anything, Jerry McGuire, Vanilla Sky.

He wrote the screenplay for Fast Times at Ridgemont High and also wrote and directed Almost Famous. He got an Academy Award for the

screenplay for that film, which is based on his experiences as the youngest contributor ever for Rolling Stone

magazine. It's an amazing story. Cameron graduated high school at 15 and started writing for Rolling Stone,

interviewing rock legends like Bob Dylan, David Bowie,

Joni Mitchell, The Who, and a lot of others.

He's now written a memoir about his childhood called The Uncool.

It's a great read, and as soon as I finished it, I knew I wanted to speak with him for this podcast.

Cameron experienced loss early on.

He was just 10 when one of his two

sisters, Kathy, died by suicide. She was 19. That's where we began our conversation. When you

were growing up after your sister Kathy's suicide, in your family, was it talked about?

Anderson, it was aggressively avoided. It was more than not talked about. It was a hairpin

turn whenever the subject got close. At one point, you did have a conversation with. Your

mom, you tried. I tried. I would try often. And sometimes I'd get like 30 or 40 seconds in before the

emergency break got pulled by her throwing her hands up and saying, I can't talk about this.

I don't want to. Don't make me talk about it. Don't make me talk about it. And then you just feel like

you're this wicked person for delving deeper.

A lot of the stuff that's been talked about in your amazing interviews, it's the things we bury and how they fester and how they never go away.

You think they're gone.

You think you've outlived them.

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