Calvinists are Stumped by Colossians 2:12
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers
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🗓️ 10 September 2021
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
Dr. James White was recently interviewed by a fellow Calvinist, Joel Webbon, and they discussed a debate with Dr. Leighton Flowers addressing the crux of the disagreement between Calvinists and all other Christians: DOES REGENERATION PRECEDE FAITH? Specifically, Joel asked about a question that seems to have stumped him regarding Colossians 2:12: "... you were also raised up with Him through faith..."
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Hello, and welcome back to Sociology 101. |
| 0:29.5 | Today we're going to ask the question once again, does regeneration precede faith? |
| 0:33.8 | In other words, are you given new life? |
| 0:35.6 | That's what regeneration is, being born again. Does that |
| 0:38.5 | precede you having faith or to those who believe get new life? Well, according to the scripture, |
| 0:46.0 | I think it's quite clear. We've seen this quite a few times, but I'll pull it up again for those |
| 0:50.2 | that need to see it again. You see from John chapter 5, beginning there in verse 40, |
| 0:55.8 | speaking to the Pharisees, you were unwilling to come to me so that you may have life, Jesus says. |
| 1:01.7 | He didn't say, I refuse to give you life so that you would certainly come to me. Jesus |
| 1:05.6 | Ordo Saludus is that you must come to him in order to have life. We also see this over in John chapter 20, verse 31. |
| 1:13.6 | Therefore, many other signs Jesus performed in the presence of his disciples, |
| 1:16.5 | which are not written in this book, |
| 1:17.8 | but these have been written so that you may believe. |
| 1:20.8 | So the gospel has been written. |
| 1:22.5 | These truths have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, |
| 1:26.9 | the son of God, and that by believing |
| 1:29.3 | you may have life in His name. |
| 1:32.2 | So how do you have life in His name according to the Scripture? |
| 1:34.8 | You believe on the Lord Jesus Christ so as to be given new life. |
| 1:39.3 | But this is the crux of the entire argument that we have with our Calvinist friends. |
| 1:43.5 | Even R.C. Spruill lays this out for us pretty clearly. Listen, if you will. |
| 1:48.2 | And the whole dispute is over the question of the order of salvation, which comes first, |
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