And My man Calvin Baker's new book, A More Perfect Reunion has Calvin talking about what's going on in America,

especially what's going on in America, especially what's going on with Colin Kappernik,

a very important part of Modern America.

Talk a lot about Colin Kappernik, who, of course, has. America. athlete of his generation has become super politicized.

You can talk about how sports is a narrative of nationhood.

And definitely think that you could write

the story of modern America on his legacy.

What are you what are you thinking about Colin Kappernik?

I think it's great. I think the truth almost didn't come to light.

Right? They did, they, they

suppress it for so long and so long and so long. I think that it is

emblematic of what's going on the country as a whole, where you have this man expressing

his political belief and that becomes a lightning rod.

We tell ourselves, we're in the 21st century where everything is so diverse

and then you see what a lightning rod that becomes for white anger.

Someone expressing, you know, pride who is, but also saying like,

you can't kill black people that's a radical act like that is how

I mean that's right that's where we really are but you can't say police brutality is wrong. Those are the hardened forces of racism, which I, which I connect to colonialism and larger colonial forces and patterns.

You're like, how advanced, how enlightened can this society be if you,

if it's if it's controversial as it was in that moment,

thankfully it's, I think,

as this moves forward, he's becoming, he's established himself as one of a line of athletic spokespersons.

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