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🗓️ 30 October 2020
⏱️ 35 minutes
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“I think we radically need to rethink how we imagine leadership.”
-Cathy Loerzel, Executive Vice President
In their final conversation about archetypes within the kingdom of God, Dan, Cathy, and Rachael unpack what it means to be a widow or widower, and how one can become a thriving king or queen. What are the wounds that impact a king or queen, what does true leadership look like, and how does a king or queen bring order to God’s kingdom?
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0:00.0 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. |
0:06.7 | I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
0:08.7 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen. |
0:10.5 | We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
0:14.7 | And restoration for the heart. |
0:17.2 | Thank you for joining us. |
0:18.5 | Let's get this conversation started. |
0:43.5 | Well, it is a honor again to be with my great co-host, Rachel, Clinton Chen, and our guest, which is our boss, Kathy Loursel. And Kathy, as we ended last time, |
0:50.0 | what, you know, maybe the audience didn't hear, but at least some of us did. Was there someone being put to death? No, that would be my children. |
1:00.1 | I, as it was true for a lot of you, and working from home these days and have been going on, I don't even know, six months to 12 years, can't quite tell how long it's been |
1:04.1 | happening now. |
1:06.3 | But, and so I'm up in our little home office room. |
1:11.2 | I kicked my four-year-old out of his room and made it into an office, and now he bunks with his brother. |
1:17.4 | But it turns out they're loud. |
1:20.0 | So, they play. |
1:22.6 | What I thought, but maybe I was wrong, was that we were hearing the prophetic cry of your family, |
1:29.8 | exposing something of their isolation, their lack of connection with their primary parent. |
1:37.5 | But nonetheless, I'm probably wrong. |
1:40.8 | No, I mean, I was teaching at cert one a couple of days ago, and as I was live in front of |
1:47.9 | 156 virtual people, my son walks in the door to see if you could watch another Pokemon |
1:52.7 | episode. I was like, so the struggle is real. There is, it's a lot happening for all of us. |
2:01.6 | Yeah. |
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